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I especially agree with Philipp’s idea, that someone should act as “Commissioner” by making sure that swap deals are evenly balanced, in order to avoid cheating. I have proposed similar swap deals, with the same mechanic Alban mentioned – buying and selling at very high values to avoid “interception” – but as he also mentioned it would affect market values. I’m not that sure that would be a bad thing. Afterall, just like in real life, the football market is a speculators’ market, and transfer values should be affected by such deals, otherwise the swap deals effect would be pretty meaningless on the overall market.
I surely wouldn’t want to see a player I had agreed on signing being snagged by someone offering him a 750k salary :P
Also, a big con in swaping players by trading them for insane amounts of money: just imagine if someone backs out of buying after you’ve committed to buy the other player for a very large sum… ;)
I think we should permit this, it happens in real life, so here it should also happen. I found this tool very interesting.
Regards!!!
Isso eh normal, movemos as partidas antigas pro historico, em breve teremos um icone de computador de estatisticas pra que sejam visualizadas. Concordo que fica estranho não aparecer as partidas…vamos ver se damos um jeito nisso :)
Abraço.
Gabriel,
Agora nao aparece as temporadas anteriores.
Victor
Se vc estava se referindo ao MediumTicker sim, estava com problema e acabo de arrumar. Obrigado por avisar :)
Ola Gabriel,
Esta com problema a Copa Nacional ?
Victor
The idea of swap deals sounds good in theory but i agree that it may cause some problems, What will happen would be a group of veteran managers or real life buddies trading their better players between each other and all others will be left out never given a chance to get a good player.
I really don’t support this kind of transfers… I think this gives more problems (cheats) than advantages… in “real life” this happens, but online I don’t like it… I will not do it, but If everyone is ok, for me… no problems.
For sale!!!! 2M
David Jorge De Vera
Edad: 29Nacionalidad: Spain
Club: Recreativo Huelva
Club anterior: -
Valor estimado: $3,863,550
Posición: M
Lado: C
Portero: 45
Defensa: 72
Pase: 83
Tiro: 71
Velocidad: 79
Regate: 60
Control: 88
Juego aéreo: 80
Agresividad: 45
Energía: 100
dont have a real “pro” for swap deals yet.
but if it’s allowed i suggest a “tool” that is supervised by an official. So each application for a arranged deal would be given to Gabriel or an other determined person (after both parties have confirmed the conditions of the deal). If the conditions are plausible the deal gets complete.
a con: the power of the free market will be weakened. not every player will be on the market before he become transfered.
I think there should be an official “tool”. Nowadays if we want to swap players, especially good one (why swap bad ones ?), we have to transfer list them and buy. So we make the transfer price high, like 20M or more, to prevent other teams to “intercept” a player. But the game’s value system takes transfer prices into consideration, such swap deals with 2 players transferred for 50M each will increase the average value of every player in the dimension.
I also think it would be easier if the newspaper could cover all transfers and deals, also if team history showd us all transfers of the club in last 150-200 ticks. Nothing is better in finding cheat than the opinion of other managers, though sometimes they make wrong accusations.
I’d like to hear some opinions about swap deals. RubySoccer currently doesn’t have any rule or support for them. A swap deal is when you give one or more players and optionally some money in exchange for another player(s).
As we don’t have any mechanism for such deals I know some people are trading at their own risk. What I want to disscuss here is, is it worth having an official trading “tool” in the game? Should trades be completely forbidden? What are the pros and cons?
Let’s see what are the opinions around here :)
Working on it.
Working on it.
The penalty is -3 in all skills. :)
Still updating, 4h 30 min minimum …
for example: http://www.rubysoccer.com/forums/1/topics/527?page=2 , bottom
Damn you guys ! Where do you take all that useful info ?! =))
Seems like it stays 25%. Certainly more than an hour, probably longer.
I thought the penalty is -5 in stead of -3.
So your MC ith 85 tac would have 80 tac. I’m not sure if it is for all skills?
What do you mean ?
If I play an MC with 85 tac as DC, he has only 82 tac ?
sure, there is a penalty.
What’s happening with medium ticker that is still updating?
Cheers
No penalty if I play midfielder in defense or attack on the same side (e.g. MLC as DLC or ALC) ?
Need a player to buy:
A defender, younger than 28 y.o., with 80+ ctr, 80+ spe, 80+ tac, 70+ pas, 75+ dri, 75+ hea. Can pay any reasonable amount, if the player is suitable.
Or !
I have an MR, Darren Barnwell:
Age: 19
Position: M
Side: R
Keeping: 47
Tackle: 74
Passing: 98
Shooting: 75
Speed: 85
Dribble: 87
Control: 76
Header: 80
Aggressiveness: 69
This should be a star-crosser ! Will find attacker’s head from any distance, on high speed with great dribble.
He is not for sale, only for a player swap deal. If you have a very good defender, we can negotiate.
Considering that many teams have more than 100M in the bank, making departments more expensive is not a problem =)
That’s interesting but could give scouts too much power, we’d have to make their department more expensive.
I just thought of a good use for the scouts. You could assume that they were also youth team scouts automatically searching for the best teenagers to feed into the youth academy. The level of the scouting department could influence the starting quality/maximum potential of new youths in the youth team. For people like myself who focus on developing youths rather than buying players, this would make the scouts worth having in addition to a good coaching level.
You can but you need to go to your manager info page either by clicking in the My Profile icon or clicking your name in your home page. But I agree, we could have links to undo the application in more places.
I really liked all the suggestions…minutes approach instead of number of matches, match importance and opponent quality…it all makes sense. You’re doing a great job guys! :D