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Hi,
I’m getting this error trying to bid for this Man United player, Matro Buero but I do not know who that manager is, have no idea how we are on the same network
Can you please fix it
It’s hard to tell Sly, I may be able to come up with something until tomorrow, otherwise it won’t be ready until the end of next week as I’ll be out until next wednesday. But don’t be annoyed Sly, I’m sure your player will have enough time to fully develop :)
well, how long before this can be implemented, because I want my player to either start playing matches or return to my club. It’s getting pretty annoying. Also because the manager who loans him doesn’t answer to my e-mails….
I could loan a player to a friend of mine for he to play just one match and then recall him…of if the player wasn’t loaned to my friend’s team but to another team I recall him. These are the kinds of abuses I’m thinking about :)
I’m pretty sure everybody will be more comfortable when there is a contract clause saying your loaned player must play official matches otherwise he will return to his team. I can even cancel the existing loans (at least for those who request it) when I add this new feature.
I don’t see why you would think recalling a loan for free could be abused? How the hell could you abuse it? I currently have a player loaned out who’s not playing. Now this really annoys me because I’m sure I could loan him to another team who would be very happy to have him. Because of this the players loses an entire season of increasements, so it will only take longer for him to get better. Now… please tell me…what the points is of not being able to recall a player? It really is starting to piss me off, and perhaps even more managers. Then in the future….why the hell loan out a player. If he’s not being played you are screwed. You are better of just keeping them yourself….
yah… but then may be we could take resources into account too… but i think we could get more ideas from other managers too…
some, having huge resources, take risks by paying more to hire better players and get results , some take a different strategy because their financial conditions are not strong enough…
it could take some time but we could come to a good blend of wins and resources criteria. But i think feedback from other managers is necessary in this case.
thanks gabriel, i think i was missing the home advantage in my calculations:(
Gabriel
I like your loan extension
rewards the good managers doing the right thing. Allow upto a full season extension.
i see both parts of the story with loaned out players BUT guys you cant have it both ways, wheres the risk factor!
I think you shoud not remove the penalty, it can be unfare for the smaller teams with lots of other teams players in there main squad. Without penalty managers would recall players for any reason, like if they have a player injured or red carded… that would create instability for the team that is counting with the loaned players in their main squad.
Best regards, Filipe
What about these 2 additions:
- loan clauses: minimum coaching (if the team who loaned in the player downgrade its coaching below the specified level the player is returned), maximum number of official matches missed (if the loaned player misses more than the specified number of official matches he is returned; matches where he was injured or suspended won’t count)
- loan renewal option: when loan contract is ending both managers have the option to extend the loan for more 36 turns
I’m really not comfortable anymore with an option to call back or return the player for free. It could be abused. :(
Well happy to see you are coming around. That penalty thing was a bad idea. If there is no penalty there is no way of “cheating” the system. It’s your player. If he’s not playing and you want him to play then I think you should be able to recall him. If the loaning manager doesn’t like that……well…thats his fault right? Then he should have played him….why loan a player in the 1st place then! On the otherside, if you loaned a player and feel like you really don’t need him anymore you should be able to send him back. I doubt the manager who owns the player would mind, since he could most likely loan him out again anyway. Both sides happy……boths sides win. PROBLEM SOLVED!
Yep, it has been reported heraser…looking into it ;)
Did anybody else notice something strange in the match replays recently?
The players keep appearing and disappearing all the time.
I agree with the manager reputation in both cases (managersim had those things), but I disagree about the financial punishments. Sure we’re penalizing the teams, but that’s what happens in real life when bad managers are running some teams.
Besides, it’s a manager job to take a team out of bankruptcy, to make a team arise from the shadows, rebuild it. It takes time, but it’s fun. when I played CM I loved to get a team in 2nd division and improved until I win everything.
Furthermore, I think that there won’t be too much punishment, as no one wants to loose money for something stupid like puttting a guy on transfer and cancel it.
I’ve been thinking about…this way it makes no sense to define a loan period! We could simply leave the player there until one of the sides cancel the loan. Hard decision :P
You’re right Fabrizio, a friend of mine has just reported it today. I have an idea on how to fix it.
Thanks for reporting!
I’m glad you loke those features cause we’ll have them both! The big club clause will probably be more complex like determining the exact value a team has to pay in order to have your player.
First we need a criteria for that. The manager ranking points could be used, so the manager of the month would be the one who won more points in the ranking. Or we could do it more straightforward like winning percentage.
Hmmm, you’re right Parag, managers can always change teams so it makes sense they have a market reputation or something like that. These days I was thinking about a reputation related to cheating, maybe we could have both.
Not the same bug, but some similar. My match replays are “lacking some frames”. Don´t know if anyone has the same problem but the game starts and the next move half of the players in the field disappear. Then the move ahead they are all there, but in the sequence half of them disappear again.
I tryed in IE and Firefox.
Thanks!
Lobba
I’m probably going to end up regretting saying this, but i used to like the morale features in ms, if the player was unhappy ie not playing he wouldnt renew contracts etc and i think it had some negative effect on his performances. i think this was a good feature to have as it was realistic, and also the big club clauses, was a nightmare for me but again was pretty realistic. Dont know what anyone else thinks?
Ah, sorry i should be more patient and read through the topics!
Thanks Parag
how about adding this thing to the newspaper section…
torte,
go there Aggressiveness
it has been discussed there
Rather than financial punishments, ( its not good to punish a team for managers behaviour ), its good to have some form of “blacklisting” manager. May be we could have something similar to disciplinary points that we have for player. or May be if he shows that kind of behaviour for more than 5 times, then, we could black list him in the transfer market. That means other managers would think twice before negotiating with him.
But as i said ahead, since it is always the team that has to pay the financial punishment, its not good to assign financial punishment. What happens if a manager removes that player from the transfer list, and becomes “eligible” for the punishment, but leaves the team after that, because he got a better job.
What impact does aggression have on your team if any, i never really understood this even in MS, does it make them more liable to bookings or what.
Thanks
Chris
I agree with sylvain, you should be able to recall or send back a player with no penalties, i also think you should definately consider an option so the manager can decide where his player goes, that way there shouldn’t be a need to cancel the contracts as you are sending him somewhere that you feel he will probably play.
Interesting idea, Rodrigo. This way we would probably reduce the number of managers who transfer list a player with no real intent of selling him or raising the price as soon as he/she realizes that lots of teams are interested in buying the player.
I’d like to read more opinions.
If I got it right you want to be able to recall or return a loaned player for free, right Sly? Well, personally I think that’s ok. When I first introduced the fine to recall or return a loaned player the idea was to be fair with the other team, but now I see it brought more worries than benefits. Maybe we should try that and see how it goes :)
If there’s something that’s really annoying is when a manager puts a player on transfer and, after we offer the value he’s asking, the manager raises the price or simply remove the player of the transfer list.
Besides the fact that it’s irritating and unethical, sometimes it’s a problem, too, because we stop looking for another player or give up on another transaction because we found the “right guy”.
I think we shouldn’t forbid it, but the manager should receive a very expensive punishment, maybe 10% of the price that the manager was asking (when he cancels the transfers) or 10% or 20% of the diference between the old and the new prices. The punishment would be apllied, of course, only if someone offers the previous asked price.
What do you think about it, guys?