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I have search through the forum and found anyhting.
Is there any rule for firing a manager when the club economy goes < 0 $ ?
Sorry, if there is any topic with this info.
Not sure if this is a bug, but…
One of my players was transfer listed with a price of 3,5M. I had one offer of 2M, and decreased the price (it’s 3M now). I do not want to sell the player for less than 3 millions!
The player used to appear on the transfer list like this:
Selling players
Fábio José
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Since then, it changed to:
Selling players
Fábio José
turns left: 2
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on the right side of the page, there’s the following information:
Selected Player
Fábio José
transfer price: $3,000,000
Current Negotiations
Boavista ($2,000,000)
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Did the indication of “2 turns left” appeared due to the price change? Please, tell me that he’s not going away for less than the value I’m asking! :)
Thanks.
difficult decision. I will talk to Gabriel, but for now I am thinking that the best decision is to wait until we implement the rest of our initial plans for strategies and tactics. After that, we will send an email to everybody that was our user once and it is not anymore, inviting those people to check our improvements out. That will hopefully bring some managers back, giving us more options. We can also start some free advertising after that – we don’t have any advertising at all.
cheers!
I support the idea of cutting the first division in two and remove the second division. I took a look in fastticker and there only is a problem in Brazil, Spain and Portugal. But maybe you can solve this by adding new countries. I think many managers wait for new countries and will choose a new team in one of these new countries.
I suggest that you first add some new countries (with already a 1 division in two pieces) and afterwards you can remove the 2 divisions in the 8 existing countries (and replace the cpu teams by managed 2 division teams if still necessary)
Or you can maintain in the most popular countries the 2 division (I think this is an option for Brazil, Portugal and Spain)
Maybe you can send a message in the game itself to ask who will choose for a new team or to let everybody know that this discussion is an important one.
Then also managers who don’t look at the forum can give their opinion if they want. And everybody knows so nobody can complain.
To Polat: I don’t find it a problem to play 4 times against the same team, cause the smaller division will be stronger then the one right now. And if you have a bad season you also can play against relegation. Otherwise there will be no goal at all for smaller teams. With this smaller league it’s also possible that a smaller team (who normaly play for relegation) can qualificate for the european/sud american competitions if they play a great season.
e.g. in Italy there are each season different who play for the CL and UEFA cup places.
So I would say cut and add more countries (Netherlands, Belgium, Turkey, …)
Cheers
I like the idea of scout, now one list of players became very easy to search for players is bad, because this would facilitate for those who have access and dispute would be unfair for players . I think it should be more difficult, for example, the transfer list page should be by division.
good point gabriel but i still think that you should cut the second division and if there is teams being managed in the second devision just replace them with the computer teams in the 1st div, there mite be a few left overs but you can just put a few extra teams in the league. better that playing each other 4 times. like i said ruby needs a bit more variety, the more variety the more people are satisfied and once the leagues are full we can still put the second div in. all we need to do is attract people at the moment.
cheers…
About the: leagues would have just a few matches, so you could end up with long periods without official matches;
As I suggested: two rounds in season:
- Two rounds would be more competitive, a team would play their biggest opponents 4 times instead of 2;
- Lower teams would receive more money as they will receive top teams twice at home (tickets).
Cheers
Hard decision, to cut or not to cut :-)
Cutting out second divisions:
+room for more countries without having cpu managing most teams
+we’d stick with a good number of teams in the league
-would probably require a reset
-small teams wouldn’t have the challenge to avoid relegation
Cutting first divisions in two and remove second divisions:
+we’d still have the challenge of avoiding relegation
+room for more countries without having cpu managing most teams
-could also require a reset as some second division teams have managers
-leagues would have just a few matches, so you could end up with long periods without official matches
Let’s keep this discussion rolling for a while.
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Dave, I’m glad you came back to check our game and decided to stay due to our improvements. I’m pretty sure that if all those who left the game (cause it was still too simple and not bug free in the beginning) came back as you did we’d have a lot more users and wouldn’t be discussing a way to add more countries without having lots of cpu teams, we’d be simply adding the new countries :-)
Cheers!
nuh i rekon we should give people more variety by cutting out second devisions and putting in new leagues because if i was a new manager i would rather a good team than a small team name wise. i think you guys would get more managers if you scrap the second devision and put in new leagues.
cheers…
I am also against cutting out the second divisions. For now we only suggest players who want more human opponents to move to more populated countries. We will still think about other options.
cheers
Just checking :)
Are you sure you read the part of leveling and cutting leagues to half the teams instead of cutting the second division!?
Hope you did…
Danilo… just now, while loading all the free transfer pages (I load all countries in separate tabs at the same time)… I got this error for the last 2 tabs (Argentina and Brazil).
Proxy Error
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request POST /game/league_transfers/1.
Reason: Error reading from remote server
Apache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.3-1ubuntu6.3 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at www.rubysoccer.com Port 80
Hugo, we do read everything. Always :). Everything you mentioned is on our list, some of then are planned to be implemented very soon. I hope we can keep up with all the improvements we have to do!
Dave, I am glad people are recognizing our recent improvements. And I think that very soon we will have a few major new features.
cheers!
I like that you guys listen, and have development plans already… and are willing to make changes. I joined the game early on, and left. I wasn’t happy with the game. But I checked back, and found it has improved nicely, and seems to be continuing that improvement. I don’t know why you’re losing managers though…
Yeah… I have a really old guy… but he’s pretty good… so I re-signed him because I know his attributes won’t go down… and he does get hurt all the time now. And I think that IS a good compromise solution. I just can’t play him all the time. So, he’s become like a “super-sub” and I kind of like that.
You are clearly not the only one that feels that way. I feel I am the only one that feels the way I do. But I think its worthwhile to consider the idea that “free isn’t always good” and “free isn’t the only fair way” and “maybe relying on charity isn’t such a good idea”.
Because free is not good when the game dies.
And just because a game doesn’t cost any money, doesn’t mean it’s “fair” to everyone… and just because a game charges, doesn’t mean it’s unfair.
And charity isn’t working. It didn’t work in the past… and it’s not likely to work in the future.
I’d also like to consider the idea that spending lots of time online searching for players does NOT = “good manager”. And get to the idea that managing your team, managing your salaries, managing your tactics and formations, managing your player development, managing your TIME… those things make for a good manager.
Honestly, I don’t think they’ll charge for any sort of list. Also, I don’t think it would make a big difference if they did, or not. But, I think it’s an idea that MIGHT be worth pursuing.
Anyway… I’ve said more than enough about for now.
Cheers
Hy Gabriel
I Know stramazi, he says that because his team is older than the others : )
Cheers.
Ok. I don’t agree, but I seem to be the only one not to… If it is better for the game, then make the list or lists to the donators, I’ll just make it available to everyone as soon as I receive mine as a donator.
Danilo, I think I’ve had 3 or 4 different types of messages… but I didn’t keep track of them. I’ll start to do that, and let you know. I also want you to know that the load times and connection rate is generally MUCH better than Managersim was… I am not complaining!
I’m not feeling confortible with a reset, at least yet… I went through a lot since season 1, I know I asked for it, I started with the worst team of Portugal and probably one of the worst in the game and it’s good to see what my team achieved!
But if a reset is what everyone feels for then let’s move on to the future… The economy model is matured by now to level things from beginning :)
In case of “future” I have my own opinion (as always so here’s my new testament), I checked the game and this is current situation of Countries/Game/Nº Managers:
Brazil – Fast 26 – Medium 21
Argentina – Fast 5 – Medium 3
England – Fast 20 – Medium 14
France – Fast 7 – Medium 7
Germany – Fast 8 – Medium 9
Italy – Fast 16 – Medium 11
Portugal – Fast 22 – Medium 10
Spain – Fast 22 – Medium 12
Considering as objectives:
Increase number of leagues (expecting a more appealing game/increase of managers)
Decrease number of cpu teams (expecting decrease of wasted cpu work/less abandoned teams)
It looks to me that a better approach than cutting second leagues is to level leagues in all countries, and to decrease the number of teams per league, like 10/10 to first/second and two rounds in season! This way you could duplicate number of leagues and maybe increase competition too, slightly penalizing three leagues (it’s not the end of the world, ruby survived one reset since I play it…)
You could also implement it in a way that it would be possible to increase the number of teams without resetting!!! To 15, then to 20 in case of full game… Maybe this is hard work but it’s easy from where I stand :)
Before any reset I also think there are some priorities pending:
- Mature Game Engine (a lot);
- Mature managers/teams rankings (youth generation):
- Points with bonus criteria like 1x to division 1/0,7x to division 2, 1,1x to cup, 1,3x to UEFA/whatever is the name of the respective cup in south america, 1,5x to champions/whatever is the name of the respective cup in south america;
- Points for infrastructures (stadium development, whatever appears);
- Points for player acquisitions (players values, earning/loosing points with squad value);
- Points with players development as this means creating value in game.
- Retirements, players decreasing skills/less injuries;
- Mature board;
- Mature Formation Strategies;
- The newspaper.
I don’t see new contract clauses as priority, cpu is not very clever in ruby and all players have a cpu mind…
I’m tired of writing and no one os going to read this far so…
Cheers
We have a newspaper in our plans and all this stuff will be included. First we need to plan how to add information to this newspaper and then what to add. I agree it will be interesting as an easy way to check what’s going on in your country. :-)
Cheers!
Dave, you have a very good point. But I am curious about one thing, for now: what is the message when the pages fail to load there? How is that going, recently?
cheers
Can you create a transaction list?… like you’d find in a newspaper. It would show the all the transfers, free transfers, released players, loans that happened in the last tick. It’s good to see what the competition is up to!
I’m already a good manager in this game, so it’s not like I need the “help”. Nor do I think it will make the game too easy. But I could be wrong.
I also think there needs to be a good reason to encourage people to contribute financially. I think this is a good way to do that.
I am personally growing ever more tired of the chronic “treasure hunt” aspect of this game (and managersim before). I now find it somewhat annoying… it’s like work. Not going through all the lists… that’s fun! But GETTING the lists. That’s annoying.
I have to login. Often times I get booted right there… and have to keep trying. Once I’m in… I have to choose my gameworld… then open the country list… then open every country… then go to the transfer list for each country… then sort for free transfers… and every click… I have to wait, and wait, and wait for the page to load… and sometimes they fail to load… and I have to try again… and again.
And because everyone else needs to do this too… it places more demand on the server. And if the game grows the way we want (more managers, more countries)… the server demand will only worsen… and page delivery will only slow. And more precious development time will be spent on streamlining the database and figuring ways to serve pages quicker… and less time will be spent developing gameplay.
So, I if have 20 minutes or so in the morning… and I spend more than half that just accessing the pages I need… and somedays I don’t even GET to access the pages before I need to leave, and I just give up…. that’s not “challenging”… that’s annoying, stupid, frustrating.
Forcing managers to waste time waiting for pages to load is frustrating. It seems a good way to drive intelligent thoughtful managers away from the game. And you lose an opportunity to make some money while you’re at it.
THINK about it…. “the ability to endure forced long page load times”. Is that what makes a good manager? Is that something that makes a manager more deserving of obtaining better or cheaper players? Is that what we want the game to be about?
Get ready for Club World Cup! Starting this season the winners of Champions League and Libertadores will play against each other to decide who is the best team in the world. There is currently no prize for the winner, but the ticket income on this Club World Cup match will be $2.000.000 for each team.
I don’t see this “limited amount of time” argument as a valid one. Unless Dave is really a workholic, and I am sometimes like that, he is an exception, not the rule.
A scout system would ease things down, and would use team’s money, not the manager’s.
I donate because this game is great and addicting, not to buy my arguments.
Unfortunately I think unsatisfied people won’t read these messages :-(
I’d be great if we could fill these countries! Danilo’s latest changes have reduced the tick time to a level where we have room for more countries.
Cheers!
Well, at least that’s a way to make older players lose some value, maybe when their attributes starts decreasing as they become old we can make the injuries less frequent :-)
Problem solved. He just wanted to play the national cup with him. What a good conversation can do.
This discussion is getting hot… NICE! Thi is the kind of spirit we need here. ARGUMENTS! One of the things which helps us most to improve this game.
Everybody has a good point, and balance is what we seek. We don’t want to make the game so easy that any idiot with 5 minutes would be able to be successful. But we also don’t want to unable people with limited amount of time to be competitive, for starters because we are part of the latter group and our motivation to build this game is that we had a lot of fun playing managersim.
Lets see where this discussion can lead us.
cheers!