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May 24, 2008 11:47

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Screen by screen is OK for the “nuts and bolts” stuff that you do on each screen. I’m thinking of some way of keeping track of stuff like “out of position” penalties… and “wrong side” penalties… and “home team advantage”… that sort of stuff. Because honestly, I’ve lost track of them! Maybe some notes about changes in the match engine if/when changes are made. And maybe a “getting started” help page for new managers.

 

May 24, 2008 11:42

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I thought about that some more… and I agree with you and Jota. I think.

 

May 24, 2008 10:32

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There is this midfielder:
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_info/16603 (fast ticker)

his history: In season 3 he had “-14” goals – how is this?
i checked some of this matches and he wasnt used as a goalie …

 

May 24, 2008 09:54

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Should be fixed JD, thanks for reporting.

Cheers!

 

May 24, 2008 09:47

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I’ll talk to Danilo and we’ll consider the different opinions here. Whether the solution will be a downloadable spreadsheet, scouts or a better search engine I don’t know yet, but we’re lacking something on this area.

Cheers!

 

May 24, 2008 09:21

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Everyone already has a full list of available players… it’s just that the server can’t serve them fast enough!!!

And I fail to see how sitting here, waiting endlessly for pages to load, so that I can copy them and put them in a spreadsheet for sorting… makes me a “better” manager than someone that doesn’t have time for that. Currently, we have a unfair system that favors people with lots of time on their hands… not smart people that are good managers. That seems wrong to me.

 

May 24, 2008 08:51

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Hi,

Season ended but on history list instead of the manager name, “no manager” apears.
Can you please check

Portugal – Team Maritimo

 

May 24, 2008 08:00

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What do you mean, Gabriel? I hope it is something related to a scout, not allowing anyone, regardeless what they donate, to have a full list of available player.

 

May 24, 2008 00:31

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Jota is right, only 4 goals recived in more than 40 games it is weird in reality. Excepcions can be good but not that unreal. Atletico has a great team and it might deserve to win… but that kind of goal keeper it is just a concrete wall, not human….

 

May 23, 2008 22:46

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You have a good point Dave, we’ll do something about it, for sure.

Cheers!

 

May 23, 2008 20:30

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I prefer the screen by screen option ;-)

 

May 23, 2008 20:11

29 posts(s)

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That could be a good thing, since the rubysoccer community could also watch and denounce anything out of order.

 

May 23, 2008 20:09

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Searching every country, every tick, is MINDLESS GRUNT WORK. If I’m the owner/manager of a real team, I have people to do this for me! I pay them. They report to me.

So… let me pay for the report if I want!!!

If some guys wanna check everything themselves… let them… that’s fine with me!

In fact, I’d pay a little EXTRA each year to simply have the report emailed to me. So, they could add levels of “service”… at a low price… but a price that helps insure the continued existence of this game. With no “unfair advantage” to those that pay.

 

May 23, 2008 19:55

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Currently Rubysoccer is much easier than managersim… yes. (because MS had a lot more countries to check!)
And I respectfully ask you… where is managersim RIGHT NOW??? OUT OF BUSINESS!!!

“Way too easy” to find players. Maybe… if you have all day to sit here and look for them. I DON’T. (though some days I try…)

And just because managers can find players, doesn;t mean they can find the right players. Or will get the players they do find.

So, again, I cordially disagree.

Server response would be improved if they could afford a better server… and if more people donated, they could afford it! No one donates because they have NO REASON to donate. Give them a reason!

Server response might also improve if fewer people were online simultaneously searching for players too!!! So, letting donators download a file (and then search it offline) might help in two ways. They help pay for a better server, and use it less often.

The “poor students” or “poor kids” that can’t afford to pay should have more free time than those of us who WORK all day. So, they don’t lose much if they can’t afford to donate. This site is BLOCKED where I work. So I can’t even stop in and look at things on my lunch break.

Say… what… $10 a year?… to get access to a flat file list of all available players each tick… is that REALLY unreasonable???

Does it give such a huge unfair advantage? If it does, is it unreasonably priced?

In the end, if no one donates, then eventually this place ends up just like managersim. (may it rest in peace) Is that what we want?

 

May 23, 2008 19:07

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Maybe we should allow that if the value is fair, now that we have more restrictive rules around transfers it’s a possibility. By fair I mean something around the estimated value, like from half to twice the estimated value.

 

May 23, 2008 17:57

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I agree with the “same ip restriction”, but there could be a way to overule it. There are a lot of managers in France that work with me and we can`t negotiate among us.
It makes sense, since we could in theory be trying to cheat, what is not the case. A moderator or something like that could decide about the correctness of a given negotiation.

 

May 23, 2008 17:48

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Of course the server response time could be improved if they could afford a better server, but I think it is still much much easier to go through these countries than it was on managersim and all players at once would make it way too easy to find players.

 

May 23, 2008 16:26

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If the server could serve the pages I want instantly, I’d be FINE with going through country by country to find players I want. I could just set up Firefox to open all those pages instantly.

It doesn’t happen that way.

Therefore, I want ALL the free transfers/transfers/loans on ONE page. Going through country by country… and having to take another step to filter for “transfer”, “free transfer”, “loan”, “all”… for every country??? I find it impossible to do that each morning before going out the door to WORK (yeah, I have a JOB… that’s why I can DONATE).

So, I think we need to find a better balance of “research required” in finding players… vs. time… vs. server load.

I WANT research work to be rewarded in this game. I also want this game to last for a long while… so I want to donate. I also want to be able to see/download all the info I need before I go to work each day. So I can continue to donate.

Give “donators” access to a page/spreadsheet/file of all the available players (transfers, frees, loans) in ALL the countries after each tick??? Seems like a fair trade of money for time to me.

Is that unreasonable? And maybe it will “encourage” some more people that CAN donate, to actually open their wallets?

 

May 23, 2008 15:51

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good team, good country = good youths
bad team, bad country = bad youths

just like “real life”!!!

Honestly, I think the best youths SHOULD be concentrated in the best teams and countries (with the OCCASIONAL great youth for a bad team). That seems normal to me.

I don’t see any big problem right now.

 

May 23, 2008 15:18

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I understand Jota’s point… but I see no problem with Athletico Madrid’s results this season. He has assembled a great team, he uses them intelligently, and they get great results. What’s the problem???

I’m up against a similar team (Liverpool) in the EPL.

Complaining about “unrealistic” results?… not me. I’m gonna figure out a way to BEAT that team. It might take me a while. But I’m getting there.

Because the team is SO good… that will only make it more exciting for me if I do beat them. I like having a high target to shoot at!!!

 

May 23, 2008 14:32

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Yep, Gabriel brought up a good clarifying point. When I said best clubs, I assumed that you guys would think about first divisions and best countries. But It is good to make sure everything is perfectly clear.

cheers!

 

May 23, 2008 14:13

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Wait a second, the youth quality has nothing to do with the team quality, it only takes in consideration the country and division of the team he belongs to, not if the team already has good players in the main squad. Just wanted to make that clear :-)

About the 98 keeper, it is a huge exception, as thorpedo said there are not much 90+ players right now. The manager was just very lucky to get this one.

Cheers!

 

May 23, 2008 13:35

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Thorpedo, you are right.

But now you are talking about how the real world is versus how would you like our game to be. In real world, best clubs tends to have both the best players and youths. It is the same in our game. If you want your club to have the best players AND youths, you have to gradually improve your team until you reach that point.

cheers!

 

May 23, 2008 13:30

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I can understand your concern. Very soon we will have a lot of extra stuff on match. In the meanwhle, we will see what we can adjust. But one thing we have to be careful about is not to use isolated exceptions as examples. I wonder if you guys would like exceptions to be ABSOLUTELY impossible in our game. It is fun to have the possibility of extraordinary things to happen, in my opinion.

I hope you can find motivation in our good number of recent and past achievements, despite the many things we still want to implement or improve.

cheers!

 

May 23, 2008 13:09

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You always have star players and I think Cavazos is one of them. There are not that much 90+ players I think. But maybe it isn’t realistic that he is already an 98 GK at an age of 21.

I also have generated 3 very good youths.
Platania 96 striker
Di Curzio 88 midfielder
Priolo 87 defender

I think it’s a matter of luck.
But it strikes me that teams with great players mostly have good youthplayers too.

Cheers

 

May 23, 2008 12:33

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How can we get “new players” with 98 value!!! I have never seen something similar in my players, it is not normal the high difference in the creation of players between teams, this give so much difference on adventage between teams.
This case is with goalkeeper, this value means not way to fight with the against team, no way to score.

Name Pos Age Kpg Tac Pas Sho Spe Dri Ctr Agg Sta
Franco Cavazos G 21 98 37 61 38 73 78 81 100 100

Regards.

 

May 23, 2008 12:25

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Hi, at the begining the “logic” changed because the complains about the many goals scored in the match.
Now we can see on the spanish league the winner with 4 goals received in all the league. And no goals received also in the champions:
P W D L GF GA Pts
38 22 16 0 55 4 82

This absolutely unreal, in real life no team will receive only 4 goals in 40 matchs! No way, this makes the game without motivation to continue and progress.

Regards,

 

May 21, 2008 21:30

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The rules we are talking about, Polat, is found in the following page of the game:
Team Setup >> Formation Strategies. In this page we can add rules about replacing players. These rules can be triggered by some events.

 

May 21, 2008 09:47

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I’ve added a brazilian option in our home page. It has lower taxes and accepts credit cards and bank transferences. Hope it is ok.

cheers!

 

May 21, 2008 09:23

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oh ok thats fine as long as we can do that to every tab like not just for positions. like you can do it for age aswell and pass, tac, shoot. i agree about finding players too easy but if you can do the others instead of just pos it would be perfect.

Cheerss…