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Thank you very much for your reply, Samir!
Cheers and good luck!
Philipp, the current wage cap is too high (10 times the real estimate for the player), we can certainly reduce that to something around 3.
thorpedo’s suggestion is good, it’s an option to a previsou suggestion I gave where the board would define how much you could spend on new wages in the current season.
I know we have a lot to do on this subject, just keep in mind that even after a few changes the game may remain unbalanced for a long time due to all the teams that have benefited from the lack of control we had in the beginning (unless we reset the game, of course). Thanks for the suggestions and keep them coming ;-)
Cheers!
We’ll soon change that to make the third criteria be “who has the weakest team”, to give the weakest a chance to improve ;-)
Cheers!
Hi
The criteria when more then one offer was done is:
1) Wage
2) Number of seasons (higher is better)
3) Who made the offer first
Because there is a wage cap right now, deppending on the value of the player, I lost more than once to teams that offered the exact same value I did. But every time they made the original offer before I did. So, if you offer the max wage possible for three seasons, if you were not the first one to make an offer, you can lose the player.
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I suggest a maximum total wage amount for all your players. So you can’t have a total of wages above this amount.
For example: max amount 450k every 3 turns
If you have already wages for 410k, you can’t give a wage above 40 k
Then managers are free to determine their wages, but there is a protection against insane wages.
You can give one player a 100 k wage every 3 turns as long as the maximum wage amount is not exceeded.
I think a 15 k wage for each player (so 30 players in total) , what makes 450 k in total , is a good total wagecap.
You always have players with a wage of 5K so you can use the diffirence (15K – 5K = 10K) for wages higher than 15k.
What do you think?
When several teams offer the same contract value for one player is there another criteria considered?
I’ve just “lost” 3 players like this, and 2 of them for the same team…
There is already a wage cap?
i doubt it:
Leixões in FastTicker
pays his players 1.600.000 !!! on wages weekly – 5 player above 100k, one above 200k …
We have wage cap and a minimum period of 72 turns before being able to sell a player in order to reduce cow trades. As always, we are open to more suggestions to help on that :-)
Cheers!
Cant you guys build in a wage cap?
This free transferround it is insane to see what some are offering (60-85k wages)
Some teams arent giving that as a whole to their team….
and to prevent a cowtrade it might be nice to do so….
It makes sense Samir, but in a first moment we will treat all non-friendly matches the same way.
Cheers!
Hi
About the ranking, will you guys take into consideration the rank of the country for leagues and differentiate minor and major international competions? I think you guys should, because if you play in a more difficult competion it should give your more point.
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Implemented an initial screen for managers ranking. Will still add some info / improve that screen. Please note that this rank is not meaningful before the league starts (friendlies do not count for ranking). The icon is temporary.
It’s in our plans to have prizes Zoirde. I saw you almost won Libertadores on FastTicker last season. Congratulations for that and for the Argentina League championship!
Cheers!
New season so I need a lot of friendlies again.
Portsmouth in fast, Palermo in medium.
Thanks!
I WON THE ARGENTINA LEAGUE AND DID NOT GET ANY $$$ PRICE FOR THAT…
THAT WOULD BE NICE TO RECEIVE SOME AMOUNT AFTER WINNING THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONCHIP… THE SAME WITH LIBERTADORES / UEFA ETC…
i’m finally back. I use to play managersim and I hope that this new project became such great project as managersim was. i’m here to play and to help in everithing that maybe necessary.
Cheers
Thanks guys.
I really think this readjustment was good for the game.
Cheers!
He is right, my bad, goal difference, and goal average are different things, don´t consider goal average where I wrote it, but goal difference.
Thank you Hugo.
Mr. Lobba, by the way, a place called “A Beer (you know which) Park” was donated for Palmeiras some decades ago! Corinthians unfortunatelly hasn’t this luck with Pepsi!
If you are going to create a rule set to Portugal, this is the complete set resumed, and it is a bit different from the one in the other post…
For ties in total points achieved
Short for point 4:
Points in games between tied clubs
Goals scored minus goals conceded in games between tied clubs
More goals scored out in games between tied clubs
Goals scored minus goals conceded in total championship
More victories in total championship
More goals scored in total championship
Short for point 5 (after point 4 apply):
For 2 teams tied, neutral field game, after 90 minutes tie, extra time 15/15, and if tie remains penalties.
For more than 2 teams, one round competition in neutral field and for ties point 4 application…
You can found the rules at http://www.lpfp.pt/SiteCollectionDocuments/Regulamento_de_Competicoes.pdf
It’s a secured PDF (no copy paste so I had to rewrite it…)
Original text:
BwinLiga/Liga Vitalis
Regulamento de competições
Artigo 8º
(competições por pontos)
Ponto 4, alíneas a-f e ponto 5, alíneas a-c
Ponto 4. Para estabelecimento da classificação geral dos Clubes que, no final das competições se encontrarem com igual número de pontos, serão aplicados, para efeitos de desempate, os seguintes critérios, segundo ordem de prioridade:
a) Número de pontos alcançados pelos Clubes empatados, no jogo ou jogos que entre si realizaram;
b) Maior diferença entre o número de golos marcados e o número de golos sofridos pelos Clubes empatados, nos jogos que realizaram entre si;
c) Maior número de golos marcados no campo do adversário, nos jogos que realizaram entre si;
d) Maior diferença entre o número de golos marcados e o número de golos sofridos pelos Clubes nos jogos realizados em toda a competição;
e) O maior número de vitórias em toda a competição;
f) O maior número de golos marcados em toda a competição.
Ponto 5. Se, após a aplicação sucessiva dos critérios estabelecidos no número anterior, ainda subsistir situação de igualdade, observar-se-á o seguinte critério de desempate:
a) Se só houver duas equipas empatadas, realizar-se-á um jogo em campo neutro, a designar pela Liga P.F.P.. Se, findo o tempo regulamentar, se mantiver o empate, proceder-se-á a um prolongamento de trinta minutos, dividido em duas partes de quinze minutos; se a situação de empate subsistir findo o tempo de prolongamento, apurar-se-á o vencedor através do sistema de marcação de pontapés de grande penalidade, de acordo com o previsto nas “Leis do Jogo”.
b)Tratando-se de mais de duas equipas em situação de igualdade, realizar-se-á uma competição a uma só volta, em campo neutro, para encontrar o vencedor;
c) Se, finda esta competição, não se encontrar o vencedor e ficarem duas ou mais equipas empatadas, proceder-se-á ao desempate de acordo com os critérios fixados no número 4 deste artigo.
You should also take a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goal_difference
England criteria is goal average!?
Cheers…
Hey Antari, I didn´t ment to offend you, congratulations on your tittle, but we both know that the english Criteria is not number of wins…
Criteria for Portugal:
1: Points
2: Results among the tied teams
3: Goal Average
4: Goals Scored
Criteria for England:
1: Points
2:Goal Average
3:Goals Scored
4: Results among the tied teams
Team managers are displayed on match report screen. It’s important to notice the managers displayed are not necessarily the current managers, but those who managed the team at the time the match happened. All past matches will display “No Manager” as we had no logic to store the managers in the matches so far.
Official decision criteria for french Ligue 1 :
1. points
2. Better general goal difference
3. Better goals scored
4. Better Goal difference on agregate (matches between the teams even)
5. less points of disciplin ( Yellow card 1 point, red card 3 points )
But I don’t see the problem to have only one rule about standings and the brazilian is as good as the other ones. There is no fake champion when you know before the rules of a competition ;)
By the way , congrats to the new champion of brazilian league in medium : Goias
My regn is over , lol !
Official decision criteria on Germany’s Bundesliga:
1. points
2. goal difference
3. number of goals scored
4. result on agregate (matches between the teams even)
5. number of away goals (in those matches)
6. number of all away goals over all
7. deciding game on neutral ground
I’ll work on that, so please those who know the criteria on each country (England, Spain, Germany, Portugal, France, Italy and Argentina) let us know.
Brazil (used worldwide in RS now): number of victories, goals scored – goals conceded, goals scored, direct confront (to be added)
Cheers!
And I am from Bolton and the ‘fake’ champion. Can’t say that I feel that much of a champion, but I have tried to play different in order to get wins more than draws. Also by adding strategies to some games in order to get wins, well I think they did no good, but anyway I experiented and might have let in a few extra-goals because of that. I understand my team was unable to score as much as I would have hoped to, but it certainly wasn’t because of too defensive tactics. In medium I play with 4 A:s most of the time to get as many wins as possible since last season I had a lot of draws. I really can’t say how much results depend on what I do, but who could say?
So because the criteria is wrong (I also think it should be localized) I am the champion. But I did try to get wins, even if it wasn’t succesfull in most cases. Anyway, I would feel better if the priority queue would be changed, since I am not used to this Brazilian one. But this was the criteria this season and I played according to it. So I do not like the “fake champion” title, even though Wigan performed better in matches between us.
Artur, sorry for the short answer but it is late here. Here´s what i think (i will try to order the facts logically):
1) we have a limited amount of time to work in the game;
2) there is a HUGE development queue organized by what we think is more important or what we feel that would be fun to implement;
3) we don´t agree that to have localized league rank rules is a huge priority comparing to the rest, nor we thought that this would give us a “coding good time”;
4) we told everybody how the league rank rules would be from the start, and thats what matters in a competition: know, play and win by the rules. I don´t think the English rules are better than the Brazilian – they are just different.
We really appreciate and respect your help and feedback. As a result, we will reconsider our priority queue and I hope we can get localized league rank implemented in time for the next season end.
And about motivation, well… Lemme try to mention some of the most important motivation facts, in my opinion:
- the game is 6 months old and already has a LOT of functionalities, despite our lack of free time
- we are very available and open to user feedback. Which means that you are an important part of the process
- in my opinion this is a good and free place to spend some time, have fun and interact with a nice community
- surprise factor. who knows what new stuff can be available next time you login? :D
well, time to get some sleep. cheers!
Well, congratulations, you now have a fake champion in England.
I have never putted in cause the developers commitment to the game, I just can´t understand, how you start to put so much new things into the game and left something such important has this one for last.
I have been helping with feedback and suggestions everytime I thought it was necessary, I have probably been one of the most active managers in this game since it started, passed a great part of this last season tweaking my team, I don´t even have a squad good enough to do what I did, it was a great effort, based on keeping the players stamina and managing the suspensions to always have the better squad possible playing.
Fact is, I just won the league under English rules, but because you don´t have those rules aplied to this league, a team that has less goals scored, more goals conceded, and also loses on the direct confront against me is declared champion.
Do you think this is fair?
I will be staying and helping you with whatever you need, but tell me what´s the motivation I have to play the game like this?
Put yourselves in my place, and tell me what would you think.
Regards…
My friend Mr. Lobba, do you readed the newspaper yesterday? Andrés Sanches announced a new stadium to 2010. 52.000 capacity.
Regards
Danilo
I agree, will work on that as soon as possible.
Cheers!