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March 08, 2008 00:51

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Donator

 

I was waiting for the end of the season but since a post about it is here, let me share my strangest season ever!

My first 11 official games had overall success, with 17 goals scored against 3 conceaded, and I must notice that most of this result is achieved in championship. Maybe a bit luck for me but nothing special in 2/3 games, something near normal.

http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/55576
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/55577
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/62535
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/62536
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/63203
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/63204
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60282
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60296
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60310
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60324
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60338

The next 13 games are completely different, my team scored one (1) single goal and conceaded 13!!! No victories for me, and 5 consecutive 0×0!! I went from first place of table to bottom!!! The most unpleasant part is not about winning, is just not scoring at all!!! How can!?

http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60352
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60370
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60388
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60406
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60424
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60442
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60460
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60478
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60494
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60508
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60283
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60297
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60311

And the last games are the worst… Because I believe I should have won them all… There are Ws Ds and Ls, and a 6-5 goal difference! I am saying, if I get more than 10 shots on goal I might have a good chance to score, and above 20 I even might win the game!!!

http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60325
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60339
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60353
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60371
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60389
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60407
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60425

Except for this one (the very last one)…

http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60443

I had this to put here but I was waiting for the end of the championship (4 games to go)… Now, this post looks like a good place…

Cheers!

 

March 07, 2008 07:51

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Administator

 

Well, that sometimes happen in real life Diogo, weaker teams win against stronger teams. There are 2 reasons for that on RubySoccer: luck or a weaker team with a good strategy against the stronger team strategy. Now if it is happening very often against different weaker teams we may need to do something about it. The way we determine the result is by simulating the match, so all the statistics you see in the report did happened in the simulation. We evolved it to a point where the results seemed to make sense and the statistics not too far from reality, but we know that this simulation is far from being ideal, we are aware there is plenty of work to do on it.

Point some match reports for us to analyze if you wish, Diogo.

Cheers!

 

March 07, 2008 07:38

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The problem with Marseille is that its manager has abandoned the team and was fired for inactivity. Before that happened lots of contracts were not renewed, so the team ended up with just a few players. We’ve recently made some changes regarding the minimum number of players a team can have, so it should not happen again. If this new rule was in place some contracts would have been renewed automatically and Marseille would certainly have a keeper.

CPU teams are weaker by nature. Of course we don’t want them to be total losers, but a well managed team tends to improve faster than CPU teams, with a small number of exceptions. Having lots of CPU teams in international competitions definitely makes it harder for a country to reach a better position in the rankings, but to be honest that’s how I think it should work, unless we give CPU teams “access” to hidden information, like players potential, manager offers values, but we don’t do that, CPU teams try to improve their squads slowly, without playing crazy wages. One thing that we must do is make CPU teams play friedlies with their worst players. That will definitely help them improve those players and possibly use them in their first squad as they improve.

So, we have plans to improve CPU teams a little, but getting more human managers to France will still be the best way to have a better performance on the coutries ranking. :-)

Cheers!

 

March 07, 2008 06:27

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I cant hold anymore….please you have to get a new system to determin the game result….i’m tired of loose against weaker teams…..it not far….i can understand when i win against weaker teams and i get understand when i loose against stronger teams… but its not fair that i play better and have better players and loose….
you should do something about this…
best regards…diogo…

 

March 07, 2008 01:24

64 posts(s)

 

Hola Muchachos,

I think that a good example of this problem is in FastTicker-France-Ligue 1-Marseille they have lost ALL the games in the ligue and in the National Cup, the reason is because of the poor quality of the team specially the the low # of players and they also have NO keeper, they only have 12 players 6 of them are youth their keeper is a youth attaker with 30 rating in the keeper statistic.

There should be something done to the game regarding computer teams because as it is know, it takes off the competition out of it this example Marseille was the ligue 1 champion in season 2 and just 3 seasons after they can’t even keep a decent team. Also in the competition, it is incredible that a player can have 74 goals in just 28 games (Alex Hamel from Paris-SG) in just one game he scored 19 goals that is the ammount of a decent forward IN ONE SEASON I currently manage Caen and I have also scored 22 goals in just 2 matches (home and away, and one player André Lechat has 15 goals in the 2 matches) and I do not think that this makes it fais for everyone because it just takes out one team out of the competition. if you analyse the data on Top Scorers for every nation the average out of the 10 players listed is about 23 goals and in France the average is about 35 that is a great difference in statistics.

And talking about competitions, about the UEFA cup Marseille has a match against Hamburger SV. we know for sure who is going to win. its ok with me personally, the only problem that I see is that it is not fair for France as a nation since participation point in European Competitions are accounted for in Nation Rankings I think that this puts France (and other nations that have teams with this same problem) in a handicap.

I had a conversation with a fellow manager from France and we came to the conclution that France has done bad in international competitions bcause of this same reason, the computer teams do not give out as much competition as they should be and this brings the quality of the good teams down.

This is just my opinion sorry if its long but I tried to put everything in perspective…

 

March 06, 2008 11:53

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Administator

 

You’re right nsg, friendly invitations and admins emails are sent in the sender’s language. What you see is Portuguese :-)

We have to fix that.

Cheers!

 

March 06, 2008 10:42

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I sometimes get system emails in the wrong language. On several occasions I have had friendly requests or accepted friendly notifications come through in what looks to be Spanish or Portuguese, even though my language setting is English. Looks like a bug, perhaps related to the other team’s language setting rather than mine?

Also a couple of times I have had your administrator emails come through from user “administradores”.

cheers.

 

March 06, 2008 08:10

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Administator

 

Yeah, it’s not very useful unless you generate two youth star keepers :-)

The odds for a new youth to be a keeper are low enough, something around 10%, not sure if it’s worth adding such a validation, we’d be also reducing the number of keepers in the game.

Cheers!

 

March 06, 2008 08:03

4,296 posts(s)

Administator

 

Hugo, we tried not to lose much time in the CPU teams “intelligence” and focus on human users features, that’s why we designed it this way. And in the average it’s not that bad, cause usually a team will have a balanced squad, not crap attackers and great defenders and midfielders. But we can change the logic to use at least 1 player per zone (D, M and A), maybe that would be a little bit more realistic :-)

Cheers!

 

March 06, 2008 05:08

42 posts(s)

Donator

 

Hi,

Shouln’t there be a “limit”/validation on the number of youth goalkeepers ?
I have currently two youth goalkeepers + the “professionals”, not very usefull!!

 

March 05, 2008 22:22

85 posts(s)

Donator

 

Please take in consideration the formation to be used as CPU will use players with the highest skill, generating formations like 5-5-0… If this can happen so 0-5-5 or 5-0-5 can…These formations shouldn’t be created!

Cheers!

 

March 05, 2008 20:18

4,296 posts(s)

Administator

 

I’m glad you mentioned it, I’ve added this limitation today, but the number is 14, considering only non-loaned and non-youth players that are part of your squad. The team must also have at least one goalkeeper. There are a few tweaks to enforce this in all situations, but it should work for all cases in practice.

Cheers!

 

March 05, 2008 19:55

130 posts(s)

 

I agree with that, 16 should be the minimum, make the bots sign the best available free players on the market or something like that. :)

 

March 05, 2008 19:10

42 posts(s)

Donator

 

Hi,

Can you take a look at the team Sport in brazil. It has only 6+6 players with two goalkeepers, one bought now for 5.200$. Shouldn’t there be a minimum players limit a team can have, the same way there is a maximum ?

 

March 05, 2008 09:32

4,296 posts(s)

Administator

 

I’ve just realized that the 3 tick rule is not enough to prevent some kinds of cheating, so unfortunately we’ll have to keep the same network/ip rule :-(

Cheers!

 

March 05, 2008 07:50

4,296 posts(s)

Administator

 

We had an error and it didn’t complete, now it is running again.

Cheers!

 

March 05, 2008 06:39

42 posts(s)

Donator

 

Hi

Can you please take a look at the medium tick … it’s still running afer more than 2.30h

 

March 04, 2008 19:09

42 posts(s)

Donator

 

Hi, while you decide what to do … can I at least be alowed to make an offer for a Sporting player ? :)

 

March 03, 2008 22:53

53 posts(s)

 

Thanks Gabriel,

I’m trying to report some wrong things that I’ve been noticed in my team. I’m trying hard to improve my team too, buyng expensive attackers, playing a lot of friendly to grow up some atributes and anything tha looks like strange I’ll report to be shure.

Thanks!
Regards
Stramazi

 

March 03, 2008 18:11

4,296 posts(s)

Administator

 

We’ll let you know if we find anything strange. Don’t get me wrong for explaining about the cards, I did that cause I know we are missing some help screens and making the game rules and behaviour clear is always good. :-)

Cheers!

 

March 03, 2008 17:40

53 posts(s)

 

I Know about it Gabriel.

But let it be.

Thanks

 

March 03, 2008 13:34

4,296 posts(s)

Administator

 

We’ll definitely check Stramazi. When you look at the cards icons in the players skills screen or in the formations screen keep in mind that they refer to your next match, so if your next match is a friendly for instance you won’t see any card icon. To check the cards for specific competitions go to your players screen and click in the Cards option.

Cheers!

 

March 03, 2008 12:12

53 posts(s)

 

Gabriel,

So the bugs is that this where not showned previously on that match. Becasue I always look in the Team Setup to prepare the players. And this happens twice since I report you this.

Thanks for explanation but please, check if this could be happening.

Regards,
Stramazi

 

March 03, 2008 11:25

4,296 posts(s)

Administator

 

After investigating your last match against Nautico I saw that Adao Branco and Germano Medeiros were suspended for that match, so Paolo Rosi and Fausto Ruiz Del Mora replaced them. Everything looks fine. Please let us know if you notice anything different.

Cheers!

 

March 03, 2008 10:56

53 posts(s)

 

This happen again against Nautico in the last league match. And with the same player. I’m preparing him to Sudamericana Cup, but if he continue playing without listed I’wont be able to start nothing in equality with others teams.
I’ve been wronged with this situation in league too.
Could someone help me?

Thanks.

 

March 03, 2008 09:54

4,296 posts(s)

Administator

 

Ok, sounds like a bug then :-(

Cheers!

 

March 02, 2008 22:52

53 posts(s)

 

No Gabriel,

There where no suspended player in that game. Not ijuried too.
That’s why I’m reporting you this possible bug.

Thanks
Stramazi

 

March 02, 2008 22:33

4,296 posts(s)

Administator

 

I’ll talk to Danilo about that JD, we may be able to remove that and trust the 3 tick rule.

Cheers!

 

March 02, 2008 22:32

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Administator

 

The player value can decrease if he was bought for a price higher than his estimated value, that would be the most common case. Even if that’s not the case, the value could decrease a little when improving, as the new value is recalculated and is not 100% deterministic.

Cheers!

 

March 02, 2008 22:30

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Administator

 

Is it possible you had a suspended player that was automatically replaced by Paolo Rosi?

Cheers!