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It’s not a bug, $2,147,483,647 is the maximum integer value for our database columns (2^31 – 1)
I also like the idea of selecting the best teams of each country. Why don’t you take the 6 best teams of each country and the finalists of each national cup. This would also make the cup interesting. If these finalists are with the 6 best teams of the league you can select the 7 and the 8 best team of the country.
What do you think?
agreed. What’s the point in doing it realistic? Some of the values of players aren’t realistic anyway :). I see no problem in creating a worldcup, but selecting 8 teams from each country might be a little tomuch. I would rather see top 4. We have 8 countries so that would give us 8 groups of 4 (32 teams like in a real world cup, only with teams :P). I personally think it would be a little tomuch to have an entire long “competition” beside the regular league games. But simply doing it like a world cup would be a great idea. Just have the group stage, which would meen 3 or 6 games (playing home and away) and then top 2 or 3 for example advance to the quater finals.
Well, there is something strange going on. I have a player with a value of $2,147,483,647, which is the EXACT SAME AMOUNT TO THE DOLLAR!! as the Goalkeeper from PSG in Fastticker….
Hector Sosa Silva <—-$2,147,483,647. So this indeed has nothing to do with a calculation of 1 individual players stats…..
We had a discussion yesterday here at work to limit the estimated value to the amount of money the richest team has. We’ll probably recalculate the estimated values when things go back to normal. And I’ve just checked again, the formula parameter dropped again \o/
D C 23 44 87 91 80 92 90 88 80 42 $5,673 $611,042,153 $599,999,995 Transfer
Daniel Marques Sunderland MD L 23 40 86 86 73 91 97 93 80 79 $16,000 $408,999,953 $408,999,953 Transfer
whats the point when you only have 5million in the bank!
Merchandise is based on player skills, not values, so we are ok. I’ve been watching the formula parameters since this discussion began, it’s slowly returning to an acceptable level. I know it happens even after increasing 1 or 2 stats, but believe me, if you see your guy going from 1M to 50M is because his “real” calculated value would probably be more than 200M. If we need to interfere manually we will ;)
It’s being discussed on this topic . There were some crap players sold by high prices unbalancing the estimated value formula calculation.
I know you are the maker and all and you say it’s because of inflation. But the jump in value comes just after the player increases 1 or 2 stats! I seen it with 4 players of mine now. After they increase suddenly there value is f*cked up!
I assume merchandise is calculated through player values right? Won’t these new values bring more money into the game?
I think its best to turn it all around and get those values at a normal level….
Hector Sosa Silva
Player Info – Player Stats – Player History
General Info
Age: 22
Nationality:
Club: Paris-SG
Previous club: Benfica
Estimated Value: $2,147,483,647 -———————- say what!
3-Turn Wage: $24,420
Contract Begin: Season 15, Turn 117
Contract End: Season 19, Turn 117
AttributesPosition: G
Side: –
Keeping: 95
Tackle: 44
Passing: 76
Shooting: 40
Speed: 100
Dribble: 100
Control: 88
Header: 80
Aggressiveness: 79
Stamina: 100
Current Season Statistics
Ligue 1 10 -4 8.87 0
Coupe de France 8 -7 8.63 0
I don’t have IE6 here to test but it should be fixed now :D. It works on IE7. Please let me know!
cheers!
I agree with DaMaGo, it doesnt matter if its realistic or not, we dont need to “copy” the real life, more competitions equals more fun!!!!!
I would like to see games with the best teams berlin, genoa, atletico, recre, benfica……and so many agaist boca, america rn, parana, gremio, cruceiro…..and others…..
We talk about a reset to level things….. i think they getting there, now there is a lot of new strong teams in every ligue…..
If you play the world cup, no need to loose interest in any competition , just need to choose priorities, and most important make sure to hit the market buying to be able to have 2 good squads to fight for as many competition as you can. this will level things… it will create a better chance for small and medium teams to win a competition, !1st goal of anybody new to winning finals!!!!.
a new competition like the world cup will affect in the manager competion and hall of fame. Maybe a new point system will chance, and make national cup to have more than one point for winning it.
I wish more people will post on this forum, most of us will respond yes to a world cup competion, i think..
salud y mussa suerte
damago
Hello to all,
I think it’s a great idea! But I think it’s not very realistic idea. I mean, in the real world unfortunately we don’t have this word cup. And we have to be carefull, because the real great international Cups (Champions League, Libertadores, UEFA, …) can lose a lot of interest if we create a new Super Cup… It’s a difficult decidion… But anyway, I think it can be good idea to allow to the best teams to play against. I propose something similar to Vicente proposed, the first 8 teams of all the current leagues. But we have to allow a place too for the National teams… Do you remember Managersim? there we have National teams and suddenly we lost players for that international friendlies and Cups… :) Best regards!Javier.
Don’t worry, wage calculation is not related to the player value. When negotiating a new contract he will care only about his current wage and skills. This will be enhanced soon to consider other factors, but the estimated value is not one of them.
Well, I don’t really care personally wether a player of mine is worth 2 billion or 2 million. If i think he is good I’m either buying him or playing him
What worries me is the next time this player wants to negociate a new contract. There was a formula for his wage demand right? It all depends on his previous wage and his current value? I can’t imagine what kind of wage a player will ask with a 2 billion value!!
Another suggestion: consider player potential when updating the formula parameters. In other words, sometimes you pay a lot of money for a 19 years old player because you believe he still has potential to grow, so you’re paying for this potential. This way some millionaire transactions would not be considered inflation by the formula ;)
I’m sorry to inform you guys that it is inflation. I’ve just calculated the exact value using our current formula and the economy parameters from FastTicker, the players is valued at almost 7 billions. On MediumTicker the same player would be worth 11M. Some teams have extra money and pay millions for some regular players. This raises all prices as we’ve discussed when the dynamic value calculation was introduced.
We all know we still have some economy enhancements to work on. I’ve already started working on something but it will take a while until we have enough improvements in this area. If this extremely high values are a problem I can either reduce the formula parameters manually or go back to a fixed formula as we had before. A third option would be no estimated value at all.
nsg, thanks a lot for the rich description of the problem. Now I know exactly what is happening and will for sure take much less time to solve it!
cheers
I see more teams have it. This has nothing to do with inflation, this is a bug….nothing more. The value increase was instant
Yes javascript is enabled and I’ve reproduced the problem using IE on a second computer.
If you accept the friendly without choosing a formation then the changes are accepted as normal.
If you change the formation it does nothing when you click the green tick (no bouncy ball) and refreshing the page shows that it is still listed as an unaccepted friendly. Once you have tried to select a formation selecting blank again (no formation) also does not work. After trying this, refreshing the page and accepting without choosing a formation works fine.
The problem only seems to occur once you try and use the drop down list to choose a formation. A workaround for IE users is just to accept the friendly without choosing the formation, then change it on the fixtures screen as before.
This is what I call inflation! I know, it’s way unrealistic now. I’ll take a look.
I just wanted to make a post about it! There is something wrong indeed. I have a player who went from 9 mill to 153 million this last tick. How is that possible?
I have a player in Fast Ticker that worths 1.7 billion!!!
He is good, but this value is a bit too much!
This makes it easier to keep “a good behavior” from the forum. But it’s an easy change, if people say it is a problem.
i know the html code Gabriel, but i think most ppl that post here don’t :)
I will investigate this soon… Thanks for reporting!
For
Thanks nsg1974! Is javascript enabled on your IE7? This new version of the friendlies page is totally dependent on that. If that’s not the case we’ll have to investigate.
Searching players is part of the fun but we also don’t want to make it easier on purpose, so you guys feel the need for a scout ;)
As always, we can change that if most of you guys think it’s a good idea.