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Alexander, I’m going to give you 5 examples and then let you in on a little secret about your “random factors” comment:
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Season 20 turn 101: Napoli vs Brest: 4-0
Season 20 turn 110: Brest vs Napoli: 4-1
Season 20 turn 128: Lyon vs Napoli: 0-0
Season 20 turn 131: Napoli vs Lyon: 1-2
Season 21 turn 98: PSG vs Napoli 1-0.
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Now. You beat me 1st game last season. I’ll let you in on a secret. I found something that worked tactically vs you and I beat you 2nd game. Another secret is that Me, Lyon manager and PSG manager are what you call “friends”. We know each other from Managersim and discuss things. We know each others tactics and way of playing. We try to use this to our advantage to put “france” on the map in Rubysoccer. Now…for me to beat you and then Lyon and PSG (who are friends) …..I don’t consider this random at all. Another thing here is, you paste main stats of players. I thought you were better then that. It’s not all about main stats, all stats are important. When you look at my team I think I’m living proof of that.
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Now Lyon managed to win the UEFA CUP and get to CL finals season after. Is this random to? To get lucky 2 straight seasons in a row? If you look at Lyon his team you might wonder how he did it? But to call certain things random or luck…..HELL NO! I think you are missing something here Alexander. I’m not trying to “attack” you here. I’m just saying I believe there is more to this game then just having great players. Having the best team doesn’t win you games. Look at Real Madrid in real life….
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Regards,
Sylvain Dingenouts
And, based on your suggested lineup, you’d be wrong. In fact, I don’t use my 99 passer, so he is for sale if you value high passers. :)
Here is my last 14 non-friendly results….very random if you ask me.
69 Paris-SG 2 x 0 Bordeaux Won Ligue 1
72 Metz 0 x 0 Paris-SG Tie Ligue 1
75 Paris-SG 3 x 0 Sochaux Won Ligue 1
78 Nancy 0 x 4 Paris-SG Won Ligue 1
81 Paris-SG 2 x 0 AC Ajaccio Won Ligue 1
84 Auxerre 0 x 1 Paris-SG Won Ligue 1
87 Paris-SG 1 x 0 Angers Won Ligue 1
90 Paris-SG 1 x 0 Strasbourg Won Ligue 1
93 Toulouse 0 x 5 Paris-SG Won Ligue 1
96 Paris-SG 1 x 0 Monaco Won Ligue 1
98 Paris-SG 1 x 0 Napoli Won Champions League
99 Châteauroux 0 x 2 Paris-SG Won Ligue 1
101 Paris-SG 2 x 0 Bayern München Won Champions League
102 Paris-SG 4 x 0 Brest Won Ligue 1
My 4-0 win vs Brest (top team in France) was also very random :P
Hi Gabriel and Danilo.
Something has to be done with the match engine. It is simply too random. I accept that every team can have an off day once in a while and loose to a team of inferior quality but as a whole, squad skill should have a big thing to say in deciding match result. I will bring two examples from recent CL matches.
PSG – Napoli 1 – 0
PSG – Bayern Munchen 2 – 0
According to a quick glance at the PSG team, the ideal formation playing a 4-4-2 formation would give something like:
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85 84 84 83
85 85 86 99
87 86
The line-up I can field in Napoli is much stronger than this, and the best 11 in Bayern Munchen is even better. My point is that there must be some kind of bug in the way the system works out the results. Anyway the random factor is simply to big – and it’s ruining the game in my oppinion :-(
Kind regards
Alexander
Hi Danilo, Can you explain what you mean by changed?
what is the new growth system works?
When the change will apply??
Thanks
The growth system has changed. Since a dimension players reset was discarded by a discussion on this forum, we have a kind of mess of players coming from the old versus players coming from the new approach.
i have some players whose growth have stopped from last season although they are merely 22 to 23 years old, and some are still growing at 25…
any help on this phenomena??
but u r not sure, if it is the same ;)
well, no matter. Now you know :)
I wonder why not let us buy back players we have sold after a season, for example ? Nowadays we have GMs who can prevent “criminal” deals.
Édson Farias
General Info
Age: 24
Attributes
Position: M
Side: LC
Keeping: 44
Tackle: 75
Passing: 87
Shooting: 85
Speed: 94
Dribble: 90
Control: 75
Header: 83
Aggressiveness: 58
15 million
Ok. Thanks Danilo.
i didn’t play managerism… this is the first online football management game i have played…
Yellow cards are counted by competition, so it is not a bug.
I personally like the idea, but I agree with the complexity of it. I think that right now we have some other higher priorities, but for sure I don’t want to discard this without giving it some serious consideration.
Technically I’m 7th not 6th, but I know what you mean. I’m the one facing the top 3…..
fast ticker season 21 CL groups:
- 2 german teams in group A, 2 spanish in B, 2 portuguese in C and another 2 portuguese in D
—> please don’t put teams from one country in a group …
- regarding the team ranking list Group A consists of the No 1, No 2 and No 3 and No 6 …
—> that’s not a definition of balanced groups …
I kinda agree, but I still wouldn’t mind having it. Those creators have done a nice thing. Perhaps there could be something added on for example, the player is listed for 2 prizes. Example: 20 mill + AC, or just 80 mill. That you can like submit the player you wants to put in with the transfer? Perhaps player value can come into play here? I’m sure if everyone would love to see this, there could be away around it. Wouldn’t mind hearing from gabriel or Danilo on this point.
If you ever played managersim you might remember it was in there aswell. A DP is the amount of yellows or red cards a player has received untill that point. I’m assuming it’s like 1 point for each yellow card received. Not sure if it’s 2 for a red or not. It’s just an indication for you what players are getting many cards. You can act tactically according, it’s not just so that the most aggressive player get’s the most cards.
What is a disciplinary point and how are they accumulated??
Are these positive with respect to players growth??? or to make it clear, how do they effect?
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For eg,
What does it mean when the statistics says a player has 5 disciplinary points from 30 matches?
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I absolutely agree !
cash plus player does not work as mentioned, far too much effort, time and diffrences of opinion involved, not only of the 2 teams involved and the GM but also everyone else in the game. Plus if a player is to be sold they should be transfer listed to all. player plus cash – cant exactly put that on the transfer screen,
you get the 100 cheapest (by value) players as a result, that match your given criteria
Actually I have a question regarding scouts:
I’ve performed the following search: “give me all the players above the age of 19 that are in any transfer list”. This returned 100 players… I don’t think 100 is the total number of players with this characteristics, so my question is:
Is 100 the total number of players returned by any scout? If so, is this a bug, or a requisite? Or is it because my scouting department level is just 1?
Regards,
Luís
I got a player (Moauro) by tranfer and he played 1 league game and is suspended by 2 yellow cards for the next game. His previous team was a team in the same league in Italy. Is this a bug or can it be that he already had a yellow card in Fiorentina?
i do :)
I know you put it some parameters that will make a player go to 1 team instead of the other if 2 teams of equil coaching etc are borrowing the same player.
Now, I have a suggestion. I noticed 1 player of mine trying to be loaned by 2 teams. 1 from argentina and 1 from france. Now, the team in Argentina has level 10 and 16 league games left. The team from france has 16 league games left, but has qualified for the UEFA cup, which is an extra 6 games with 4 experiance instead of 3 for league games. Now personally, I rather have had this player go to the french team (even if it’s the same league, since I’m not scared of my own loan :P) since he would be playing UEFA cup! Much more experiance. Now no offence to the other manager loaning him, but my loan is going to miss out on 6×4 = 24 experiance points.
I think you should make an addon for this. If a team has qualified for european games the player should want to go to that team. I think he should always take the team where he can grow the most.
Anyone here agree with me?
ive had a player listed on transfer for a while now and for 6 days it has said 1 tick left.
the guy should be sold… why isnt he
One of my players(Manuel Hofer) got accorded a 70 000 $ contract and I never authorized it.
And there is an other player (Adam Daly) how has a 117 000$ contract, but for him maybe I pushed on (1)by inadvertence.