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March 17, 2013 12:43

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Selling in santa fe, prices negotiable.

 

March 17, 2013 12:18

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Lince, essa era a ideia, rsrs.. comprar um jogador por temporada.
Já que eu não admito a hipotese de pagar um alto salário, eu prefiro pagar um valor grande pelo jogador.
Vou terminar a temporada com 470mi em caixa.
:(

Filipe, the idea of high salaries affect the contract renewals did not prosper?
Can i offer super salaries that will not affect me in the future?
I’m using less than 50% of my wage limit.

 

March 16, 2013 22:50

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We should only speak English in the forums, its the language everyone can read and write, better or worse.

I already said this but I see no problem in those rising values, if much is a signal the market is working. If the problem is inflation we could use other options like reducing the money available (for everyone) or players asking higher wages (an excellent idea Gabriel had to cancel because people protested simply for not being used to it).

Even so, doing all this there will always be situations like those 500k wage, if a manager really wants a player and can do that, why not? Players morale can be helpfull to prevent that but we should not rush it just because you couldn’t get one player because of that. So what if Rui got that player for 500k wage, think he’ll do it again? When boards points start to be a worry for people this situations will be even more rare.

Now, the problem with the transfer market is a whole other issue, I think this suggestion along with the board points benefits for saving money will help things to start working again, as they are right know its unbearable for most managers. You can only find old average players or young unimproved players in the market. The only way to mount a top team is by getting them when young and improve them. Instead of giving managers some other options we are forcing them to this path. Fine by me and others that always have done that, for most people not so fine…

 

March 16, 2013 21:37

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Eu nao concordo; iriamos ter jogadoers a serem vendidos por milhoes e milhoes o que nao tem logica; a meu ver o irreal é o limite de salarios ser tao alto; ontem competi para comprar um jogador e foi para o Valladolid por 500 Mil de ordenado; para um jogador que nao vale tanto enfim… o problema do mercado estar morto é que os clubes estao cheios de dinheiro e logicamente nao querem vender e quem comprar nao pode porque nao ha nada de jeito; se isso continuar assim deveria haver melhoramento para evoluir os jovens do plantel e apostar na formacao; ou entao diminuir a facilidade com que as equipas tem dinheiro; eu acho que o dinheiro antes estava melhor pois obrigava o pessoal a vender para poder comprar; agora ninguem vende ou entao acaba se a comprar jogadores medianos por precos altos pois nao ha mais nada para comprar eheheh Felix o que interessa um unico atleta ? Vais comprar so um por epoca ???

 

March 15, 2013 18:46

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Se eu oferecer um valor acima do pedido pelo jogador não adianta nada né?!
O que vale é o valor estipulado pelo vendedor.
Procede?

 

March 15, 2013 14:32

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EU concordo com o Filipe Silva.
Se não houver limites nos valores de transferências vai ficar muito melhor comprar e vender e fará sentido guardar dinheiro para investir em um único atleta.

 

March 15, 2013 08:21

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Vaughn the ridiculous prices are the ones people are willing to pay, I already got agrement on several players but cant make no deal because this limit thing. With the est value so low and so much money available this is one big part of the sleeping market we now have.

Gabriel, this is simple to do no? We can give it a try and see how things go, if you dont like it put it back again :D

 

March 14, 2013 13:12

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I dont think there has been any change, Gabriel would let us know. You’re just unlucky manuel… I continue to have no care for injuries, double yellow cards are much more offen than those.

 

March 14, 2013 09:09

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It’s good though, otherwise physio is totally pointless.

 

March 14, 2013 01:04

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No, not one or two games. Now is more than 10 and 20 turns…….and in the medium ticker…..its too much

 

March 14, 2013 00:25

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Its realistic, they are only injured for one or two games max, makes u need a good squad.

 

March 13, 2013 13:50

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And now, with the players injured so many turns, i,m getting angry…Sure

 

March 13, 2013 13:18

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You wont be abble to renew contracts unless your team’s wages get lower than the limit… Be careful or you may need to fire someone to keep others…

 

March 13, 2013 12:14

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I believe the difference between the wage total and wage limit is removed every 3 turns from your transfer budget. question is, once your bidget reaches zero, what happens then?
I thought this was only possible while singing your own players though and not free agents.

 

March 13, 2013 12:08

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You guys serious or joking?

I am talking about creating a product/service/brand that will be something people can play and enjoy when it’s ready, and you are moaning about not being able to buy this and that player..

Talk about pearls to the swine… Really embarrassing..

/BK

 

March 13, 2013 09:36

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Donator

 

I think there was something posted about it recently. I don’t remember exactly what, but there is a negative consequence of overstepping the wage limit.

 

March 13, 2013 04:56

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Browsing the free transfers, had 27,575 available for wages. Figured I’d take:
Jamie McFarlane M L 35 Season 81, Turn 104 144 $27,575 $19,896,055

So I put in a bid at max available funds. I also put in a bid for:
Luke Fewings DA LR 30 Season 81, Turn 104 144 $27,575 $22,426,074

Same thing, max wages. As you can see I managed to sign both of them on the same turn, and now have a wage budget of:
Wage Limit: $657,470
Current Wage Total: $685,045

I would have done this a bunch of times on this last if I knew I could :P

 

March 12, 2013 20:25

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Just be patience guys, I’m sure Gabriel and Danilo will understand our preocupations and make things better for all, unfortunatly we can’t pay them to work 24h a day for us :D

 

March 12, 2013 14:15

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Well, now i,m thinking like Rui. I like realistic, same if have cheaters…
I,m waiting. Telling the truth, not enjoying the game now like before…
Now, its money for nathing (Pink Floyd). No players to buy…
Will wait. If dont have good options, i still like SS. So, Go,gogoggogogo….

 

March 11, 2013 22:25

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no no, you’ll see me every day, you’ll see the suggested things working (on a game) later on, work has begun… ;)

Anyway, I think it’s very nice not having to worry about transfers for a while.

 

March 11, 2013 13:54

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i haven’t made any comments about your solution :)

buy low/sell high is what low/medium real clubs do all over the world to became better one day be a top club. RS problem is that cpu clubs buy players for stupid money, that was the biggest problem in my view.

yes, i claim the old days were much better :) (but maybe i’m wrong, i have an opinion but i understand it could not be the best one)

one thing is true: now i set my team, 5 minutes/day, and that’s it. i spend more time talking to you at the forum than playing the game :)

ps – there will always be cheaters. and one thing i never understood is to cut the fun of honest managers because we have cheaters. cheaters used to piss me off in ss/ms days but then i learned this: just play the game and ignore them. there’s few sucessfull cheaters and those ones you have to kick out from the game (even if they came with other account, they will have to start over again until they can have sucess again and that is not so easy nor fast)

see you in 6 months then :)

 

March 11, 2013 12:28

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Rui, cool then.

I am guessing RS won’t make the changes suggested, I will do them on my game and we can talk again in 6 months.

Actually it is your own perspective (and few others), you want the old ways back (the chaos) so you can manage your own economy. Management game is not ONLY about the economy and transfers, it’s the whole picture. People complained about not being able to buy/sell stars, I presented a solution. If someone does it or not, not really my decision, but to claim the old ways were better is just insane. It was cheater’s paradise. Be honest, it was bad. Maybe you have played all management games like that. Buy low, sell hight, like farmville only football players.. Come on, do you want to see another game like that? I want to see a game that is better than the rest.

Anyway, we’ll talk in the subject in 6 months again.

/BK

 

March 11, 2013 11:39

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it’s not my own perspective, don’t be naif. if it was i would be complaining about all the money i lost and i’m not. i’m talking about having more or less fun. and if we can’t manage your economy, it’s less fun. like if, from now on, you couldn’t manage your tactics, it would be less fun. i believe it’s better for the game to have more aspects to manage rather then few. it’s pretty simple

cheers

 

March 11, 2013 09:32

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I don’t know how you think the game should be like?!

I try to give ideas and suggestions that would make the game a better product/service, more realistic and more than just a market management game. And depending on your personality you can play “many games” within this game, that is my goal, NOT to make it how I would like to play it. Don’t we want bigger audience for the game? Don’t we want to get rid of the cheaters? How do you do it? Not by the way it’s been – for sure.
Taking in new things into your consciousness hurts, I know, but try to see things from other perspective than just your own.

BK

 

March 10, 2013 23:00

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oh, btw, and to put it on realistic basis, a team that would offer a wage 5x up to a player, there’s not much his club could do to avoid that player to go. the club would be almost forced to set a price and the player would go. in RS, we have loads of star players in a lot of second divisions teams. no logic, no realistic, less fun. this is a fact, not an opinion.

 

March 10, 2013 22:53

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“What are you talking about, you can sell/buy players, maybe not the ones you want for the money you have/can offer but that has been the reality of all games of this type.”

really? are you sure, Berhan? cause the way it was all managers had to sell a few great players so they could have money to buy another great players. it’s what i call manage your economy. for example, i sold top defender Ignacio Lastra to dynamo moscow for 300m so i could buy the next great striker in the market. at the moment, i won’t sell any top player before 35 yrs. is this realistic, as you claim it should be? don’t think so…

“I am not saying that you shouldn’t be able to buy/sell, but saying that I wouldn’t care less if I couldn’t get a player form the transfer market, I’d manage anyway.”

hey, everybody would manage anyway, that’s not the point. the point is to have more or less fun.

 

March 10, 2013 19:31

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Filipe and Dimitri, read my post fully again.

You will still deal with players, I am talking about the real big transfers. Before this big economy changes you could see a lot of 150M+ deals for good but not so great players.
Is that the kind of deals you are talking about?

I am talking about addressing the issue with people hanging on to the best players because they are not getting paid the money they think players are worth.
My suggestion will unlock buying such players, so even if the manager doesn’t want to sell the player because others can not offer say 400m for a super player, the club could still sell the player, OVERRIDING the managers decision, and the reason is manager not reaching the goal set by the board.

The suggestion will also add an other level of management depth to really try to reach the goals or you may lose a player or two, then you have to start re-designing your strategy. A more difficult game, but a lot more fun.

You will NOW be able to do the BIG deals, but THOSE will take time to put in reality, thus making it not too interesting for the cheaters to get involved in, as it would take time to make those happen.

So this suggestion solves the issue with not being able to buy the players you want and can afford.
Realistic ? Quite so, as those deals will cost a lot of money and in reality the club will sell any player the club feels the offer is too good to refuse, even if the manager opposes to such a deal, right?

BK

 

March 10, 2013 18:07

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Filipe nem para isso ele teria jeito; fala que foste despedido uma vez mas ele poderia o ter sido dezenas de vez; mas ninguem quer treinar a equipa dele que praticamente nunca ganhou nem ganhara muito mais algo…

 

March 10, 2013 12:31

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You do know a team’s name means nothing in this game right? You probably should know that before anything else…

Anyway, I guess in a few seasons you’ll consider Middlesbourg a pre formed team also so, it’s like talking to a wall, only the wall wont say stupid things… Why dont you try a wall carear? :D

 

March 10, 2013 12:23

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Sure Berhan, I just suggested the injuries because it seems simplier to implement. Just changing some formula I guess. At the moment injuries have almost no importance to me, one less department to worry about.

Your suggestion seems fine, but I guess will take longer to implement.