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As I said before I dont think the solution is on giving more money to teams, that will just give an excuse for teams to not sell players and so the transfer market problem wont be solved, whatever the prices of players are or were the problem is the lack of transfer movements because the lack of managers willing to deal, If there was no money in the game prices would drop and transfers would be made but I dont believe that is the case, prices dropped but there are very few active managers to deal (not even 50 I would say)
Revilla, just a correction In both FTand MT there are 936 teams each, FT has 140 Managed teams, and MT has 130 managed teams that seemes to be more than “50 active players”.
I also agree with the transfer market problem, i think there should be something done to help “smaller” teams get extra money, Also, I was thinking about the way money is spent, for example, the only way a team can lose $ is (without purchasing new players)
1. Player Wages
2. Staff Departments (Physiotherapy, Coaching, Scouting)
3. Ground Maintenance
And the only way to MAKE money (without selling players)
1. Tickets
2. Merchandise
3. Sponsorship
IMO the way the game is set up, you acctually spend more money than you earn, I do not know of a single team (RS) that has made millions with out selling players, (that seemes to be the only way) I do know of teams that made and keep on making millions and they keep selling players left and right. the way the market is now (with the recent changed to the COMPUTER managed teams) this will only go down, just think about it, a few seasons ago the best player of the game (IMO the history of the game) Alberto Phillippe (Tigre) went from a value of a Few Hundred Million to $122,790,547, this in not nessesary good but because of the desperate need of some teams to sell, they are willing to sell players dirt cheap and that is not good for the game, I guess we just passed a period of INFLATION and hopefully we start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
All kind of YOUNG player for sale at cheap prices, all from my youth team, with great skills and still improving!! come and take a look, Gueugnon (France, Ligue 2) I will negotiate and lower my price if needed.
Well, I’m a bit of new players and I can add about the game.
But during these months I have played rubysoccer not attract new players because it has many things that have no logic.
- Transfer market
Market closed for lack of enough human managers, its impossible for new managers to arrange funds to invest in good players.
Lack of money in circulation, only the big teams have it and basically transfers are made between them. There should be several ways to make money and boost the economy of the clubs.
- Leagues
It´s not makes sense to have 50 championships, where 75% of them are only one or two active teams. It does not attract any new player, they get here and see a league with only bots and for that I’ll play FM2012.
- Juniors
You should rethink the way it processes input from the junior game and how twe can develop these players.
- Engine game
It’s frustrating to reach the conclusion that only in tactics that put everything in the midle to play to win a game. But this is the least important.
The idea of the game is well done, but worry too much on catching cheaters than in developing and attracting more people into the game. It makes no sense to have more than 500 teams in each game and have only 50 active players.
Selling four midfielders at very cheap prices, but of great value!!!
Saulo Ramos
M C 26 yo – 81 86 74 91 99 95 83
609 pts, excellent holding midfielder, spectacular secondaries.
Price: 8 mill
Emmanuel Fayard
M C 24 - 82 90 78 93 81 93 96
613 pts, excellent holding midfielder, excellent secondaries
Price: 15 mill
Ange Metzger
M RC 23 - 77 87 85 91 95 89 88
612 pts, very nice midfielder with scoring potential, again excellent secondaries
Price: 13 mill
Julien Menager
M C 22 - 78 85 82 83 88 87 92
595 pts, a great piece for teams in rebuild
Price: only 5 mill
before i knew the feature existed, it was a bug for me…
OMG, so this is were all the old guard from the SoccerSim is :-). Some good old names are around :-). Honestly, I thought I’ll never see you guyd around :-). And from other topics I see my good old buddy Berhan is also around :). I managed whole bunch of team in SoccerSim between various games – Stockport County (from thrid league all the way to the championship), Venezia, Vicenza, Sambenedettese, Perugia. But I was also pretty active in the forums as well, so I hope some of you remember me. Great, now if I can only get to be able to apply for a job (already reported it in the Bugs)…
I’m a new manager and I’m trying to apply for a job. I try in both games (fast and medium ticker), in any of the 3 possible ways (browse by country/club, go through the list of available jobs or even try to accept a random job) – and I get the same error. “We’re sorry, but something went wrong. We’ve been notified about this issue and we’ll take a look at it shortly.” I really would like to try this game since it reminds me a lot of the old SoccerSim/ManagerSim game.
I agree with tim, the game has become less interesting with the changes on the transfer market. Making it more interesting would make it easier to attract new managers ;)
I must say, recently I have become a little bored with Ruby Soccer. There is no longer much interest in the transfer market, there are very few juniors coming through worth keeping; there doesn’t seem to be much going on at all. I admit, I could spend more time searching for juniors, or canvassing other managers to buy class players. However, my time playing the game on a regular basis is limited and I like to see a more vibrant game than what I see now. I think the cpu teams need to be more involved in buying and selling than what they are now. Also, maybe to encourage new managers, or manager transfers, possibly a list of top free teams and there player and cash values could be considered.
We all agree the market is not as fluent as it used, yet the problem is not in the money teams have, more money would just raise players prices without any change in the number of transfers made. Also you need to consider that the most successful teams (the ones that would be awarded) already manage to sell and buy players, so that measure would only increase their power over the other teams…
Money is still possible to make from transfers, now its harder and more realistic to do it because you have to sell good players if you want to get money, thats no problem if you know how to find more good players, here is IMO the problem we face, experiment managers know how to find them but no manager that just came to the game can do that now, I think measures to help new managers creating their teams is the solution. That must be also accompanied with more managers in the game, the CPU adjustments made lately showed us the few human managers in the game, I have no access to any statistics but from what I see there’s no more that 50 active human managers in both dimensions… Its impossible to have a nice fluent market without more managers. Mass invitation in the social networks I believe is the best and cheapest way to work that at the moment.
We need to bring more people to try the game and keep playing, for that we should have some more ways to help new comers in their first steps, extra money in their teams so they can improve the couching department (or automatic raise of it), help finding good promising players, prevent them from buying old players in the first seasons. Starting a team from nothing is possible (many managers me included have done it recently) but it requires knowledge of the game new managers dont have and they end up leaving their teams and the game.
At last, as I always said, with more people more cheaters will come so we need to make sure cheating preventing measures are effective too if we want a stable and attractive game.
In short, bring new managers, keep them here, dont let them do sh*t! (this should be the new RS slogan :P)
Hello,
The market is completely dead… so it´s imposible to earn money… in the future the teams will be all financial bankrupt.
It´s urgent to create some financial awards! Every football manager games that I know have this.
Best Regards
Hello,
The market is completely dead… so it´s imposible to earn money… in the future the teams will be all financial bankrupt.
It´s urgent to create some financial awards! Every football manager games that I know have this.
Best Regards
Just for the record, this subforum is for pointing out mistakes in the game (bugs).
i didn’t know about this… may be it was announced while i was away from the game :) no issues though…
@dimitri, i am not blaming anything on anyone. it is just that i didnot know the game had this feature… it is better not to comment if you don’t have anything worthy to contribute.
@filipe, thank you
you already have the option to use a formation for the friendly matches squedule at season start… Manager>Options>Friendlies formation
So you had the wrong settings and you blame it on the game? :)
Came back from a lengthy vacation mode only to realize that my first team had been used by the system as default team for both friendly and non-friendly matches. After 11 round my first team players stamina was too low to be match fit…
there could be two solutions to this.
- one is to allow to select a default formation for friendly
- another better solution is that system does not select any formation for friendlies created by the system. It uses the lowest average players for those friendly matches.
please consider this for future improvement. i don’t want another manager to suffer what i suffered…
Merry christmas
2 young players on the loanlist in Malaga. They only will become better! Take a look.
- Santana is a promising goalkeeper who is still growing every couple of turns. You can loan him for a longer period if you want.
- Carlton is a young striker with already a 96 shooting.
Feliz natal a todos
Merry Christmas to you all :D Dont drink too much, if you do dont drive or play RS, it ends bad for both :P
I said it would be unrealistic if we replaced the current international competitions for global ones. If the current competitions stay then any tournament would still have a small influence in the ranking.
The real world cup is a tournament of seven teams, with the CL and CA winners seeded for the semifinal. In Rubysoccer there are only two continents, but still, a tournament wouldn’t be unrealistic.
Realistic it only could be fair if Eur and SA compete in a global competitions, but I think that would bring too much difference from the real world competitions and that is something RS is appreciated for. Also I think that would be worse for SA teams, São Catano can defeat any european team, but I dont think the other top SA teams can compete against the European top…
Selling 3 solid players for any team out there.
Mids:
Ranildo Mata
MA C 22 yo - 81 87 85 91 88 94 88
614 pts, excellent you midfielder who can do it all, but score more than anything else.
Price: 20 million
Saulo Ramos
M C 26 yo - 81 86 74 91 99 95 83
609 pts, excellent holding midfielder, spectacular secondaries.
Price: 10 mill
Strikers
Benjamin Guillemot
A C 25yo - 84 85 89 95 94 78 91
616 pts, not the best shooter, but solid do-all striker, perfect for A-1 position.
Price: 11.1 million, minimum allowed by the board.
Mail me!
It’s been almost the same amount of seasons with Europe been favored in the ranking, so I think it’s fair that we tried to balance things a little more, even though it’s understandable that it will never be completely possible until Euro have more managers.
And I didn’t mean just CWC, I assume, since we all keep saying that Europe should get an extra boost, everybody knows that Brasil and Argentina rule SA. The last seasons we got brazilian teams in the finals and semifinals of both Sudamericana and LA, a lot of times with both making the final match. When one of them wins the CWC it’s not just ‘a’ detail, it’s ‘the’ detail.
Hey guys, another topic for another team :D
I’m selling some players, most are very weak for human managers but there’s this guy I think may be usefull for some teams, I believe he can improve too (players from new countries used to improve no matter their age, dont know if that still works thou). Anyway, he’s 25 and has 97 tackle so can be very usefull I’m sure, price is the highest the board alowed, they have a stupid value for a player like that…
Check it out:
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_info/259606
Also the challenge for managers to join me in Croatia still stands, I tend to be a little softer in MT but can still give a good fight to anyone :D
PSV was long on top in the Eredivisie in season 62, but then I had a losing streak and Gabriel’s Emmen took over. Then it was his turn to spoil points and he needed to win our match in round 37… he lost though, so PSV champion again!
No luck for me in the CL though: 9 points was not enough to qualify for the next round. VVV Venlo did better, reaching the semifinals of the EL. Alas they won’t play in Europe in the coming season.
In de Eerste Divisie De Graafschap was unlucky. After trying for a long time, it looked like they would go up finally, but a loss in the last round meant fourth place, 2 points behind the number two.
Groningen and AGOVV, both teams with big stadiums, got new managers. There teams are not so strong yet but I expect that to change. A good financial situation will help.
IMO it’s nice to see the tables have turned. In the early day’s it was only Brazil and argentina who had to devide all the points, while europe had to split it through like 5 or something. The first 30 seasons was just brazil who was dominated because of the flawed concept.
I’m kinda happy to see them being on the otherside of it all :)