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@Alban: I agree, the number of shots is still too high
@Parag: it makes sense to reduce the board dramatically, currently we fix the maximum board loss in 10% per match (not considering penalties for not accomplishing goals)
well, i don’t want a direct interference, but some in-game checks could be kept in place.
For eg; if you lose any official games by more than certain no of goals (say 10), your board appreciation falls by more than usual percentage (for eg, 25% or 50%) and repetition of such results within the same season could lead to manager being fired… (especially when u r in the top half of the league)
yah… we are going to have europa league from next season onwards… i think its better
i am for the first option…
Alban, I don’t think rubysoccer should interfere in this kind of choice made by the manager. People may really want this kind of situation. Maybe we could have some kind of warning, though.
Data: Temporada 25, Turno 98
Competição: Liga dos Campeões
Público: 45202
16-humanMonaco
G Estêvão Gonçalves 9.5
D Jérôme Kohler Player_substitution_entered 5.3
D Luis Llorens Player_substitution_left 4.5
D Michael Deasy 6.3
D Breno Lessa 4.6
D Sandro Uchoa 6.2
M Craig Theodosiou 8.8
M * Malte Kienle 9.9
M Germano Ferraz 8.8
M Carlo Colomba 7.7
A Maurício Malta Player_goal Player_substitution_entered 6.9
A Basílio Gusmão Player_substitution_entered 6.0
A Cristian Aguiar Player_goal Player_substitution_left 7.4
A Benedito Soares Player_substitution_left 6.6
Técnico: Luc Blomme
2 × 1
4-4-2 formação 3-4-3
56% posse de bola 44%
27 chutes 16
19 chutes a gol 14
91% passes certos 90%
62% roubadas efetivas 28%
3 escanteios 3
6 impedimentos 0
11 faltas 28
Paris-SG16-human
G Hector Sosa Silva 9.0
D Dimas Camilo 3.6
D Jean-Marie Geslin 5.0
D Emeric Colas Player_yellow_card 3.9
M Oscar Rémy Player_substitution_entered 6.0
M Olivier Edouard Player_yellow_card 2.1
M Timoteo Sanchez De Mendoza Player_substitution_left 7.1
M Marvin Ricci Player_yellow_card Player_substitution_left 3.8
M Chris Smith Player_substitution_left 4.9
M Mario Burgos Player_substitution_entered 6.6
M Daniele Vecchiarelli Player_substitution_entered 3.0
A Damiano Caldas Player_goal 4.8
A Nino Huet 7.6
A Geraldo Franco 7.4
Técnico: Sian Vaughan
Data: Temporada 25, Turno 96
Competição: Ligue 1
Público: 60000
16-humanMonaco
G Estêvão Gonçalves 5.4
D Breno Lessa 5.5
D Jérôme Kohler 4.8
D Michael Deasy 5.7
D Anderson Prestes 6.6
M Carlo Colomba Player_goal Player_substitution_left 6.1
M Jean-Baptiste Koch Player_yellow_card 5.2
M Basílio Gusmão Player_goal Player_substitution_entered 7.0
M * Inácio Teles Player_goal 10.0
M Craig Theodosiou Player_yellow_card 5.0
A Maurício Malta Player_goal Player_substitution_entered 4.0
A Emilio Cabral Player_goal Player_substitution_entered 5.7
A Diego Amorim Player_goal Player_yellow_card Player_substitution_left 8.3
A Benedito Soares Player_goal Player_substitution_left 10.0
Técnico: Luc Blomme
21 × 0
4-4-2 formação 3-4-3
57% posse de bola 43%
43 chutes 1
37 chutes a gol 1
89% passes certos 83%
48% roubadas efetivas 15%
7 escanteios 2
2 impedimentos 0
16 faltas 3
Paris-SG16-human
G Lambert Gueret 0.0
D Aurelio Sanchez Becerra 6.3
D Ricardo Castro 4.8
D Dimas Camilo 5.7
M Mario Burgos 2.1
M Victor Araújo Player_substitution_left 5.2
M Chris Smith 4.3
M Oscar Rémy Player_substitution_entered 6.2
M Daniele Vecchiarelli Player_substitution_entered 3.5
M Gilmar Braga Player_substitution_left 6.4
A Nino Huet 6.5
A Geraldo Franco 5.5
A Édson Campelo 6.3
Técnico: Sian Vaughan
Here is the issue with the lineup for friendlies.
in the last 5 friendlies
PSG has lined up:
With 5 matches:
Dorian Demay
Emeric Colas
Geraldo Franco
Hakan Chesnel
Jean-Marie Geslin
Kamel Moine
Lambert Gueret
Nabil Lechat
Oscar Rémy
Pape Oger
Vanderlei Lins
Dorian Brule
With 4 matches:
Domenico Lo Sacco
With 1 match:
Daniele Vecchiarelli
as you can see PSG HAS a lineup specialy for friendlies.
And I do not think it was a mistake that non-senior players played an official match and i think this was done in Purpose.
Gabriel can you please explain if the board expectation affects your sponsorship income or not? I am making 150k on avg right for some time now and i am wondering if its normal or not.
I dont know about CL but LA right now is not so different than Copa do Brazil with always Brazilian teams playing each other in the later stages.
I am in for combining Cl with LA.
no no no, don’t u ppl see it or is it just me? It’s just to spare all the main players stamina. In real life coaches will put in some yought like 2/3 to spare some ppl for the bigger games. You can say this is a small bug in the engine ok, fine i can agree on that. Firing a manager at once will be a rly drastic discision though, maybe more adjustments on the preformance @ the board page?
I think everyone can make a mistake and set a friendly squad for an official match. I recommend to implement a widget to prevent that. And I think even a 60 kep gk can perform better. This wouldn’t happen if the number of shots was closer to reality
I am for it
Fixed scout search for free players. It was not working correctly.
Anybody against renaming UEFA Cup to Europa League? For those asking yourselves why, that’s what happened on real life: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League_2009%E2%80%9310
I don’t think there is anything to do with setup, the keeper for instance is really weak compared to the opponent attackers. Maybe 100 points is too much for skills range, maybe the difference between professional players is not that big. Anyway, what we could do in case of such ridiculous results is fire the manager, so people will think twice before lining up such weak players in an official match.
I like the idea of joining CL with LA and UEFA with CS. We could have the qualifying round as we have now, but when it comes to the group stage we could have 8 groups mixing teams from 2 competitions. Unfortunately this way we wouldn’t have a CL, LA, UC or CS champion, cause these competitions would only be used as a pre-qualification to the World Cups.
I don’t know about 2b, I’m still not comforable with the consequences I mentioned…
I dislike such results. It can only happen in Oceania World Cup qualification zone when Australia plays first squad against a bunch of amateurs from a small isle =))))
Even Sir Alex Fergusson would be fired (if not beaten to death) after such defeat.
I think Champions League and Libertadoras will lose their attractiveness if champions will not participate there. So, maybe it is better if best CL and LA clubs participate or if we just combine European and American Cups…
You are right Vaughn; it is beneficial for some (just a few) of the Managers in France, but I think it unfavorable for the rest of the players in the entire GAME because don’t you think about what this can do to the game Ethics? I think that a victory with this big of a margin has something to do with a “Set Up” you are talking about a lineup of young players that have no more than 3 official matches and compared to the other players of PSG (The Regular Senior Squad) their Skills are WAY LOWER!!!
This 21-0 Victory simply opens a HUGE can of worms, and I think that the Game Masters and Administrators should feel upset about it.
It also gets you thinking if this Happened; just imagine what had already happened? Or even worst, what can happen in the future?
Remember, I am talking about Game Ethic
I just hope that more people can think this same way, and take this serious
In real life you do see Manchester United play league matches with Bench or Youth players when they have a huge competition coming up (such as Champions League Match) but you never see them loose 0-21, not even 0-5, therefore I think that there was something done behind the scenes to the line-up so that Monaco can have a HUGE advantage; not just in player Skills but also in field positioning.
uhm everyone who is sure on his place in the league in the last matches do a lineup of yought players? That this happends in the middle of the season (once) is something else…but totally the managers choise and it should stay like that.
uhm jesus…it only benifits you and all the others because psg lost? i don’t see the problem here…
I’m for option 2b.
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Whats the attraction, when 50% or more of the league plays international. Champions league without any national champion? I dont like that idea much – thats UEFA cup or a new cup/league e.g. the “Cesario-Castilho-cup” ;-)
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Then establish a 1st world league (CL+LA), a 2nd world league (UEFA+CS) and the 3rd world league (places 6-9 in national leagues) … this declination would make more sense, though i still like option 2b best!
@Samir: Not necessarily, I’ll probably keep the number of spots for the current competitions, they will just be “moved down” to give room for the World Cup spots.
I’m glad you guys understand that we’ll probably go for the first option. And yes, it is going to be great, DaMaGo \o/
I am the Manager of Niort currently fighting for a qualifying position for the UEFA, and I do not think its fair.
I guess that you can play your team as you please. but I do not think its fair for the rest of us that are fighting to become great teams and lets face it we all want to have a spot in International Competition.
I think this is what the GAME MASTERS should be monitoring, and ask themselves if this is “CHEATING”
DaMaGo, what is Danilo’s way? I only saw Gabriel’s.
By the way, based on your the first option Gabriel, you will change the number of spots for LA/SA right? So, you will remove that Qualifying round?
BRAVO, you guys nail it, it was worth to keep trying, i think this is going to be great, now i see the rubbyfutbol community growing fast.,….you guys rock, keep it up!!!!….by the way i like Danillo´s way, but any other option its fine with me.
SALUD2
I like the first option better.
yeah focus on cl and with next season only uefa..smart move..but he only had a small chance to win i guess from monaco, so maybe a good choise to set hid friendly team in there.
Sorry for the long post, it’s worth reading :)
As those following our Twitter already know, we will have a World Cup with clubs AND the current international cups. When this new competition is ready, three things WILL change:
>National cups will end late in the season, there will be 6 turns between same round matches and 12 turns between rounds. Countries with more than 32 clubs will have their cups ending on turn 97 and the other countries will have their cups ending on turn 79. Some may say it should end even later, but I want to keep this formula so we can have countries with even more clubs when lower divisions are added.
>Current Club World Cup will be replaced by this new World Cup. It makes no sense to keep 2 so-called World Cup competitions.
>Champions League, UEFA Cup, Libertadores and Sudamericana will start in the beginning of the season. When they will end depends on what is written below.
My intention is to create a 32 clubs World Cup split in 8 groups of 4. From there, same formula currently used in the international cups will apply (teams play each other twice in each group, 2 first of each group qualify, following rounds have 2 legs, except for the final). Alternatively, we could have 16 teams instead of 32.
Now, there is another decision to make. How do we choose the 32 (or 16) teams that will be part of the World Cup? I see a few options: (in order of personal preference)
1) Use national leagues to qualify for World Cup. This way teams in the World Cup won’t play other international competitions. For example: on country ABC, the 3 teams better qualified in the first division will be part of next season’s World Cup, 4th, 5th and 6th places will be part of Champions League and 7h, 8th and 9th places will be part of UEFA Cup. How many teams will go to each competition will depend on the current country ranking position, as we have today.
2) Use current international cups to qualify for World Cup. This way the best qualified teams on these competitions would go to the World Cup.
2a) 16 best on CL + 16 best on LA (or half if we have only 16 teams in the World Cup)
2b) 12 best on CL + 12 best on LA + 4 best on UC + 4 best on CS (or half if we have only 16 teams in the World Cup)
Why do I prefer the first option? Well, if we use the first option more teams on each country will have the chance to participate in an international competition, which means a better balance regarding money distribution (from ticket income) and player evolution (for playing international competitions) and more people having fun from these competitions. Using the second option will make a few teams concentrate the benefits of participating in 2 international competitions in the same season. I’m pretty sure that is not good for the game.
I wrote too much already, now let’s read some comments :)