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Keeping: responsible for 60% of goalkeeper defense power; not used by other players
Speed: responsible for 40% of goalkeeper defense power on defending shots, other players use it to run
Dribble : …used by keepers to limit their defensive power if your formation does not have any defender on mentalities -1 or 0
Control:….for goalkeepers it’s used to decide if he catches, deflects or punch teh ball to outside the field in a good defense
Header: ..also responsible for 40% of goalkeeper defense power on defending headers
I apologize for being so slow but how is a goalie’s skill measured again???
:)
This team is 5 officials matches without loose and beating great teams (like my one damit!). After 6 games without win, what happened? Have you found a great formation?
footyman – this is possible yes, even that many more countries entering the south america, less vague Brazil will have to ensure that the competition for ranking points.
young players for sale. 22 years old attacker with 85 shoot, 83 speed and 82 heading just for 10M (still developing). and others. maritimo – portugal
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/team_players/251
Several players on sale, great players who can help your team, do not miss this opportunity and make your purchase.
Para mim seria deixar como esta mas apenas quando se compra um jogador que esta emprestado automaticamente o loan acabar…..
Moi je parle Francais, Anglais, Espagnol , Portuguais, la situation n est pas la…. le jeu a changé est beaucoup des resultats sont tres injustes quand on domine avec plus de 20 tirs que l adversaire… incompréhensible d avoir des attaquants avec 100 de tirs et en par exemple 30 match avoir 1 ou 2 buts… je comprends que avoir 60 ou 70 c etait trops… mais quand meme….
Please guys, let’s keep the topic discussion around the topic’s subject. As Dhimitri said “we all want this game to develop and progress. Point at the problems is the best way to start improving it”.
Cheers!
DaMaGo, I thought you may have been French.
Where to begin…
First & foremost:
chauvinism –
1 : excessive or blind patriotism
2 : undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs or has belonged
3 : an attitude of superiority toward members of the opposite sex; also : behavior expressive of such an attitude
as per Miriam Webster
Wrong way to describe my attitude towards the following sentences you’ve posted:
“This teams must be in a black list, you just have to read the posts to read how mush unfair shit is happen to then……..”
“…but by then i dont remember nowbody complaining than their attackers score to much….. but now it is all complains, and threat to go on vacations)????”
D’ailleurs, pour ta référence, je suis d’origine française…
Et finalement:
“you the one who need to find what world we living and dont give MIERDA to others ethnical groups…”
-Comment dire une imbécillité pareille sans même me connaitre? Pour ta référence, j’ai vécu à plusieurs endroits dans le monde. Au fait, hablo español también.
Il me semble que contrairement à toi, je ne me crois pas supérieur aux autres suite à mes expériences personnelles. Pourquoi avoir même pris cette approche dans le débat en tant que tel?
Aucune surprise avec la façon dont tu as réagi…
The post is not about winning a victimization award, as you assumed in the previous post. That’s why so far, in the so called classification above, all 15 human managed teams are listed (Hence, the impact on all of us, not a personal level). The goal is simple, measure the full deviation of the results from what we consider “normal”.
Second, this post is an effort to help on things, not put the game down as you again assumed.
Since all of us, including Patrick, you, and me, are here debating about the game shows our commitment to the game (whether we are consumers or creators).
Rest assured that we all want this game to develop and progress. Point at the problems is the best way to start improving it.
Dimitri, we both agree match eng needs changes. I lost games or tie like the one you point out. But this is happening to everybody…… while we wait we have to work with what we have.
To Patrick c., i want you to know than i was born in Paris, i have family in France and i grow with a mixt of cultures, plus i lived 13 years out of Europe.
So the highlights our cultural differences are true, you are a chovinist!!!!! big time. But careless….. i think is you the one who need to find what world we living and dont give MIERDA to others ethnical groups….. the world is too small dude!!!
and to every else sorry this is my last personal post…
SALUD2
Clearly DaMaGo is emotion-driven. The entire point of this post in an analytical approach to the entire situation.
Myself, posting to go on vacation is what we call humor. Evidently, your interpretation of my sentence highlights our cultural differences…
The reason of this thread is not to cry but simply to collect some evidence of what is wrong with the game engine. Hopefully that can be constructively used when the match engine gets fixed as it is being now.
FYI…in RL, when weak teams win versus strong teams, they usually deserve it, it’s not a matter of accident.
Alcocorn fully deserved the 4-0 score against a shitty display by RM
Both United and Liverpool got thrown off the FA cup while playing at home against 3d and 2nd division teams respectively. And the fact is both winners deserved to win. It is very rare for a week team to win if it plays like shite. However, it’s common for a strong team to win games even when playing bad. Actually that’s a MUST for teams to win their leagues, that’s how most top teams, apart from Barcelona, manage to be consistent.
FYI…The game here should reflect RL as much as possibly, however, try as you must, our virtuality here cannot and shouldn’t be as much complex as RL. The game is a matter of numbers, quality is numbers, performance is numbers, and hence quantity of number decides. Things like player emotions or referee mistakes or turf quality and weather conditions don’t apply in virtuality.
FYI…the cases listed here are not based on the quality of strikers or the whole team. The only factor considered is amount of shots made on goal as a measurement of performance on the pitch. This is a reality of numbers, hence it is expected that a team making 2-3 times more shots than opposition, then it should win the game no matter the quality of its players. In addition, if the team dominating is also far superior in player quality then it is expected not only to win but also to crash the opposition. You may argue as much as you like, but the numbers beat abstraction in our case.
If Toulouse wins 3 games versus 3 of the best teams in the league with an aggregate of 4-1 goals and 35-77 shots, then something is clearly very wrong. You do understand that, don’t you???
So far, in 16 games played in the league I have outshot opposition in the 15 of those games. The only one games was against Brest lost 0-3 and was completely thrashed. No complain there.
I lost 4-0 to Marseille, 19-16 shots in my favor, no complain there. Next game tied at home with Monaco 3-3, 19-12 shots in my favor. No complain there, despite the fact that I wonder how can my D leak 7 goals in 28 shots against (I do have only an average goalie at best, but great defensive players) and my offense scores only 3 in goals in 38 shots made when. Again these matches was not included.
As for the rest of games, wins, losses, or ties, Valencieness has been dominating over and over, yet I find myself in mid table with a team averaging 637 pts per player and 2.5 times the shots made on goal versus opposition.
The quality of my shooters cannot hurt me as they are great. The quality of shots (I don’t buy this either) cannot hurt, for I shoot from close or medium range. Possesion?? I got it!!!. Tackles made?? Every frigging game. Strikers??? I got them!!! Mids, I got them!!! Everything you want, other than a great goalie, I got it. So don’t philosophize with me!!!!
FYI…Regarding the strikers scoring less, and the rest of the team more…I was the first one to cherish the new change, when most of the rest were crying out loud why they strikers wasn’t scoring 10 goals per game. This has got nothing to do with what we are talking about.
Bottom line: If all the numbers are showing me that my team is performing in full gear and if my team is full of quality, then I am left with no explanation why there’s no end product. And if there’s no logical answer, then things are not as they should be and should change!!! ;)
it´s seems like there is a very bad match eng. just for a few teams. This teams must be in a black list, you just have to read the posts to read how mush unfair shit is happen to then……..
tHIS MATCH ENG is for everybody, and you just have to ajust to it, like everybody else.
Its true it is not the best, but at least is allowing weaker teams to have a shot winning the top teams. this is like in real live… no the best always win….. see real madrid vs alcorcon!!!!!!! mills against pennys….. and pennys beat then 4-0……..
Managers have to approach different now days, i think differnt teams lay out are to be choosen for home and away games…. attackers now score like in real live….. no more than one goal average per game ( remember before up to 3 goals!!!! but by then i dont remember nowbody complaining than their attackers score to much….. but now it is all complains, and threat to go on vacations)????
Administrators are working in the new match eng, please STOP Crying! blow your nose and let it go….
We all play under the same rules……..
SALUD2
There is indeed something wrong. I shouldn’t have tied against Valenciennes and I played with a lot of my young players, not my best 11 so that’s makes it even stranger.
we are already in vacation. till the changes are made, we can have fun with our regressive league here
Week 16 Winners
Valencienes-Bordo 1-1 (28-9)
Bordo ties the game with one man down
Val -2
Bord 1
Brest-Lyon 1-1 (24-10)
Lyon ties the game with one man down
Brest -2
Lyon 1
Rennes-Sosho 0-1 (19-6)
Rennes -3
Classification after week 16
Troyes 12
Bordeaux 3
Lyon 3
Nice 2
Ajaccio 1
Niort 1
Lens -1
Guingamp -2
Auxerre -3
Brest -4
Marseille -2
Grenoble -4
Monaco -6
Rennes -9
Valenciennes -14
I may as well go on vacation mode and let the CPU take care of my team.
k so uh great i get to wait for this idiot to agree to cancel loan
btw in the past ppl who bought players that i had ON loan told me it was the rules to return the player
so fuck that bs
Yesterday I’ve started working on the match engine again. I’ve created action profiles for each position to try and fix this behavior.
After you have changed -1, 0 and +1 logic, it is been common, at least at my team, players from position D +1 been more present near oponnets goal than striker at position A-1.
For me defender -1, should stay just in defence and rarelly at middlefield
Defenders +1 should be more common at middlefield but very rarelly in A +0 or A +1
Summarizing:
Position / Acting positions
D-1 / ALL D, M-1, M0
D0 / ALL D, ALL M
D+1 / ALL D, ALL M and A-1
M-1 / ALL D, ALL M
M0 / D0, D+1, ALL M, A-1, A0
M+1 / D+1, ALL M, ALL A
A-1 / D+1, ALL M, ALL A
A-0 / ALL M, ALL A
A+1 / M0, M+1, ALL A
Forget about Troyes, check out Toulouse
In the last 4 weeks they have won against Auxerre (1st), Nice (4th), and Monaco
3 wins, 4-1 goals, 35-77 shots
And they don’t have a manager :D
hmm Troyes manager must be doing something right.
Toulouse-Nice 2-1 (8-28)
Nice -3
Classification after week 15
Troyes 12
Nice 2
Bordeaux 2
Lyon 2
Ajaccio 1
Niort 1
Lens -1
Guingamp -2
Auxerre -3
Brest -2
Marseille -2
Grenoble -4
Monaco -6
Rennes -6
Nice suggestions :)
Auxerre-Toulouse 0-1 (23-13)
Aux -3
Grenoble-Troyes 1-1 (31-10)
Gre -2
Tro +1
Guingamp-Niort 2-2 (21-10)
Gui -2
Nio +1
Classification after week 14
Troyes 10
Nice 5
Bordeaux 2
Lyon 2
Ajaccio 1
Niort 1
Lens -1
Guingamp -2
Auxerre -3
Brest -2
Marseille -2
Grenoble -3
Monaco -6
Rennes -6
Valenciennes -12
Should be interesting to change this. Like:
- If a player is loaned you can´t put him on transfer list
or
- Before u put to loan you have an option in contract: brake or not if player is transfered
or
- Loan contract receive an auto terminate in 12 or 18 turns.
This was changed a while back to foster loans by allowing teams to plan, as DaMaGo mentioned. In the old way the team who loaned the player could suddenly “lose” the loaned player, without notice. In the new way the team who is buying is able to decide whether or not buy a loaned player, knowing he will be back only when the loan period ends.
that is the way it is…..
when you bought the player, he was loaned, with contract, and with a period of time, so the team can plan use him all that period….. it will be unfair to take him out of the squad….. next time make sure he is not loaned so you can use him right away…..
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_info/81850