1. Topic: Announcements
2. Improvements Discussion

Por um lado eu concordo com o Dimitri, pois quem não se preocupou com a economia antes da atualização se deu muito bem.
Eu mesmo deixei de reforçar ambas as equipes pra manter o caixa sempre em torno de 800 milhões.. e também tomava cuidado com os salários.
Mas infelizmente sacrifícios devem ser feitos tendo em vista as melhorias pro sistema.
Eu só não compreendi uma parada Gabriel: Eu tinha pouco mais de 800mi em cada uma dos times, isso não existe mais, certo?!
Agora eu tenho um valor X no Chacarita e um valor X no Tucuman.. eu posso gastar todo esse valor até o final da temporada sem preocupações?!

1. Topic: Announcements
2. Improvements Discussion

No, the managers who paid very high wages have been rewarded, cause they have the better players without any disadvantage.

If real life time was an issue, it was better to wait longer with the new system imo.

1. Topic: Announcements
2. Improvements Discussion

@Dimitri: don’t say that! I understand your frustration, I’m also used to carefully manage my player wages. Now I realize it would not be that complicated to keep the wage disparities during the conversion, but the haste to put the new system in place led me to this mistake. The important thing to realize is that the new system has room for enhancements such as new investment areas in the future, and now we don’t need to worry about money balancing issues. Those managers who are not careful now will have to change their behavior and those like us who are already used to being careful should be one step ahead ;-)

1. Topic: Announcements
2. Improvements Discussion

New Economy Update – Portuguese:

O novo sistema economico está finalmente pronto! Fizemos algumas mudanças estruturais na última atualização. O principal objective é tornar mais fácil para nós lidar com os problemas de balanceamento do dinheiro do jogo para que possamos focar em aspectos mais importantes do gerenciamento do futebol. Como em qualquer mudança nas fundações como essas eu espero que alguns treinadores irão reclamar e vai levar algum tempo para adaptar-se, mas espero que ela se prove a melhor opção a longo prazo.

Deixe-me tentar resumir o que foi feito:
- revisão da fórmula de valor estimado do jogador (fixa, não mais baseada em transações existentes)
- revisão da fórmula de salário dos jogadores
- conceitos removidos: balanço de dinheiro do time, situação economica do time, capacidade do estádio
- conceitos introduzidos: pontos da diretoria, orçamento de transferência, limite total de salários, porcentagem de transferências para o orçamento, áreas de investimento (treinadores, fisioterapia, olheiros, estádio, orçamento de transferências, limite de salário e porcentagem de transferências para o orçamento)

Ciclo de investimentos
No turno 1 todos os times receberão um número de pontos da diretoria baseado no seu desempenho na temporada passada e no ranking de países. Esses pontos podem ser gastos nas 7 áreas de investimento disponíveis. Para melhorar uma área pro nível X você precisa pagar X pontos da diretoria. Você pode piorar qualquer área e receber de volta um número correspondente de pontos da diretoria para alocar em algum outro lugar. Treinadores têm até o turno 12 para ajustar os investimentos do clube para a temporada corrente. No turno 13 quaisquer pontos não gastos serão automaticamente alocados e os níveis de investimentos serão travados até a temporada seguinte. Além disso, o novo orçamento de transferências será estabelecido e o novo limite de salários entrará em vigor.

Orçamento de transferências
O orçamento de transferências é a quantia de dinheiro que o time tem para comprar novos jogadores. Quando esse valor é renovado no turno 13 qualquer quantia da temporada anterior é descartada. Quando você vende um jogador uma % do valor da transferência é adicionada ao seu orçamento de transferências. O valor exato depende do seu nível de investimento nesse área.

Limite de salários
Você não consegue contratar mais jogadores ou até mesmo dar aumentos a seus jogadores se isso fizer seu total de salários ultrapassar o limite estabelecido. Entretanto, em alguns casos isso pode acontecer, e se acontecer a diferença entre o limite e o seu total de salários será debitada do seu orçamento de transferências a cada 3 turnos.

Minha intenção é adicionar mais ajuda dentro do jogo para a nova economia, se preciso e também criar uma página na nossa wiki com mais detalhes sobre todas as mudanças. Por enquanto por favor use os tópicos Improvements Discussion (http://www.rubysoccer.com/forums/5/topics/330) e Economy (http://www.rubysoccer.com/forums/3/topics/2226) para postar suas opiniões (positivas ou negativas) e perguntas. Por favor, seja bondoso :-)

Cheers

1. Topic: Announcements
2. Improvements Discussion

That sucks yes. Doesn’t really motivate to continue playing the game :(

1. Topic: Announcements
2. Improvements Discussion

I’ll translate the latest announcements to Portuguese, anyone volunteers to do the same to other languages?

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Atualizações em português em breve.

1. Topic: Announcements
2. [admin_only] Improvements

The new economy system is finally ready! There have been some structural changes done with the latest update. Their main goal is to make it easier for us to handle the money balancing issues in the game so we can focus on more important aspects of football management. As with any fundamental changes such as this one I expect some managers will complain and it will take some time to adapt, but hopefully it will prove to be for the best in the long run.

Let me try to summarize what has been done:
- revised estimated player value formula (fixed, not based on existing transfers anymore)
- revised player wages formula
- concepts removed: team money balance, team economic situation, stadium capacity
- concepts introduced: board points, transfer budget, total wage limit, transfer to budget percentage, investment areas (coaching, physio, scouting, stadium, transfer budget, wage limit and transfer to budget percentage)

Investments cycle
On turn 1 all teams will receive a number of board points based on their performance in the past season and the country ranking. These board points can be spent in the 7 available investment areas. To upgrade an area to level X you need to pay X board points. You can downgrade any area and receive back the corresponding number of board points to allocate somewhere else. Managers have until turn 12 to tweak the club investments for the current season. On turn 13 any board points not spent will be automatically allocated and the levels of investment will be locked until the following season. Also, the new season’s transfer budget will be established and the new wage limit will be in place.

Transfer budget
The transfer budget is the amount of money you have to buy new players. When this value is renewed on turn 13 any money left in the previous season budget is disregarded. When you sell a player a % of the transfer amount is added to your transfer budget. The exact value depends on the level of investment on this area.

Wage limit
You are not able to hire more players or even give your player raises that would cause your total wages to go beyond your wage limit. Nevertheless, there are some cases where this can happen, and if it does the difference between the wage limit and your player wages will be deducted from your transfer budget every 3 turns.

My intention is to add more in-game help for the new economy if needed and also create a page in our wiki with more details about all changes. For now, please use the Improvements Discussion (http://www.rubysoccer.com/forums/5/topics/330) and Economy (http://www.rubysoccer.com/forums/3/topics/2226) topics to post your thoughts (either positive or negative) and questions. Please, be nice :-)

Cheers

1. Topic: Announcements
2. Improvements Discussion

Gabriel!!!
Põe as atualizações em português também, por favor.
Não estou entendendo nada!
Sumiu o $$$ do San Martin Tucuman e do Chacarita Juniors!!

1. Topic: Announcements
2. Improvements Discussion

Unfortunately yes, wages and values have been reset to speed up the effects of the new economy. I know, it could have been done differently, but I’ll be on vacation soon and I wanted to make sure the changes were running smoothly before that. Shame on me, I took the quickest path :(

1. Topic: Announcements
2. Improvements Discussion

Have all the wages been reset?

Or in other words, anyone who got players by giving them 300k per tick is rewarded by the changes, while managers who kept the wages low are being punished?

1. Topic: FastTicker
2. Chacarita Juniors - Big Sale

Pessoal, tem 3 ótimos jogadores a venda no Chacarita Juniors!

1. Topic: General
2. amici wsm

ciao checche :3

1. Topic: MediumTicker
2. Ajax Selling

E o Alberico Maciel?
:P

1. Topic: MediumTicker
2. Ajax Selling

Hello, many players to sell in the best team to make a deal, just check for yourself:

http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/team_players/673

Most of the players listed were very important for the two times winning of Europa League, so they probably will be handy in your team too :D

1. Topic: FastTicker
2. For sale or loan

nnothing but shite players on the transfer market.

1. Topic: FastTicker
2. interesting..

Yep, saw that and sent him another message…as we know he won’t reply he’ll be banned tomorrow.

1. Topic: FastTicker
2. interesting..

He’s been online…

1. Topic: FastTicker
2. interesting..

If he does that or is fired for inactivity, he’ll be banned :-)

1. Topic: FastTicker
2. interesting..

I don’t expect him to reply at all ;)

1. Topic: General
2. Perguntas

Benvenuto!

O valor de salário pra jogador jovem fica a seu critério mas normalmente é baixo e você consegue negociar com ele (dar um lance e esperar uma contra-proposta). Quando compra um jogador o valor de salário depende de vários fatores. Se você está negociando sozinho tem mais flexibilidade pra tentar oferecer um salário não tão alto e ver se o jogador concorda, mas se estiver disputando com outros managers o melhor e tentar oferecer um pouco mais já que o valor do salário é um dos principais fatores na decisão do jogador.

Abraço

1. Topic: FastTicker
2. interesting..

I’m currently waiting for a reply from Sevilla’s manager. As it is Carnaval in Brazil I don’t expect him to reply before Wednesday. I’ll keep you posted.

1. Topic: Bugs
2. Cheat ?

Teasdale is not 34 he is 24 and his average skill is 90.14
I know that his price was a little elevated, but like you said, who cares..

1. Topic: Bugs
2. Cheat ?

so who would spend 45% of the entire funds on a 34 year old player??

these questions wouldn’t exists if we had a realistic economy model, it really is killing the game, but who cares..

/BK

1. Topic: FastTicker
2. interesting..

It does look fishy. I’ll look into it….

1. Topic: Bugs
2. Cheat ?

Well every manager do as he pleases but I think with that money you could start a team to be in the top for many ages to come, you would probably negotiate some player similar to that for 300M, just needed to search and talk to managers :D

Anyway, doesn’t seem like cheating to me.

Cheers

1. Topic: MediumTicker
2. Ajax Selling

Hi people, sorry for the new topic but needed somewhere to advertise a new wave of sellings in Ajax. Avarage players listed for very reasonable prices, the best you find in the MT market:

http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/team_players/673

Take a look and make you offer!

1. Topic: Bugs
2. Cheat ?

had about 2 billion on my bank account, and really not worried about the price, I have been following this player for a while and I do not regret paying that much for him, I am building a competitive team, and still have some money on my bank account, and I will still be looking for some good players, if I really want them I am not afraid to pay top $$ for him, it is not a “cheat” I would call it an “Investment” this is my first season back from Ligue 2 and if you look at the transfers I have done and what I posted last season I am looking for excellent players to have a spot in international competitions for next season and compete in them (champions preferably) I personally think Teasdale is one of the best Midfielders in this game and a big plus is that he is young, when I purchased him his value was more than 500M I do not expect him to improve any more, but I do expect to play him in every match. I am trying to build a competitive team, and trust me, money is not an issue. I will try to get the better players available and money will not stop me, I have plenty of it to spend.

1. Topic: Bugs
2. Cheat ?

Wow, that must be a record… could be legit though.

1. Topic: Bugs
2. Cheat ?

Jason Teasdale

80

34

Transfered from Cienciano to Gueugnon

Hi this is normal ? ok its a good player but 900M ???? and he have so many games played; ….

1. Topic: General
2. amici wsm

ok fatto!!! me lo ero perso :-)