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Yeah, I agree with you Berhan, introducing the money back will bring with it problems we wanted to get rid of (inflation, cheating) so we will have to introduce something else with it. I like your suggestions here and might pick some of them to start with, such as wage match by other players and lower morale for having too many players of the same position. It is probably the toughest on the list, but also the one I feel needed working the most as having no money balance had more negative than positive impacts overall, even though introducing the Investments was something I really liked.
Cheers
Oh, you chose the toughest of all features to change.
That one needs serious design dude.
For example people will abuse it to buy free/cheap mediocre players and sell it for twice the money, so you have to add penalties on morale so as I see it you have to release the MORALE enabled at the same time.
Some other considerations to make:
1) When buying a player what will the player have impact on:
a) Role model for younger players (max skill + 5%?)
b) Wage issues with other players, similar skilled will want a new contract to match the new guys pay
c) If more than 3 players on certain position, morale will go down on certain players, as will their development ratio
2) Answer to this logical question: was this a good move for the club?
a) see 1/c
b) skill/potential-wise is this player better than the rest of the players already in the club?
c) set an arbitrary nr of years/season before player is sell-able, depending on the quality of the player?!
- need to explain this one. Normally a manager should be able to bid on ANY player, even if player is not transferlisted. 2c will ensure that certain players can not be bid on for a certain period of time, if the player is too good for the club.
3) Answer to this logical question: was this a good move for the player?
a) yes money is great, role promised is captaincy and highest earner clause is ON.
b) specially 32+ year old players, can jump into coaching later on, and I realize this is asking for a feature, but this can be explored
c) age/skill/country-wise is it interesting for a player to move to your club? The big-club thing in SoccerSim comes into mind..
4) Answer to this logical question: is the player willing to work for you?
a) what kind of manager are you? a Developer of stars, “Cow trader”, a winner of titles?
b) depending on ages/skill the player could change view in his life and may change opinion about you?
c) newspaper feature bump, player interview where player stating that he would want to work with manager/club/league…shouldn’t be too hard to implement.
Bringing back just the money will change nothing, sure you could save 5Bn and buy whoever but that brings back the reason to cheat.
Some thoughts anyway.
/BK
We’ll keep investments and put back the club money concept. I still need to figure out a way to keep the transfer and wage budgets at the same time, but if it proves to be too complicated I’ll just get rid of them, at least for now.
The squad size limit should be removed once player morale is implemented. As we have a very limited amount of time to dedicate to the game at the moment we are trying to focus on one thing at a time and the highest priority from the poll seems to be the club money, followed by player morale and match engine.
There was mention that squad sizes might be increased or the limit on the number of players being removed at some point, I think this was at the same time as player moral was meant to be rolled out. Is this idea of an increased squad size still being thought about or considered?
and investments ? i would like to see: investments stay, a return of the club money and have player moral
It’s not! I’ve just released the latest poll results, check it out:
http://www.rubysoccer.com/forums/5/topics/1078
What would you like us to change or introduce in the game?
20% – Change match engine from simulation to statistics based
33% – Bring back the club money balance
20% – Finish introducing player morale
10% – Increase the number of clubs in the Club World Cup
11% – Management cycles: after a fixed number of seasons everyone has to apply for jobs again
6% – No Answer
I’ll focus the little time I have on bringing back the money concept. At the same time I’ll try to introduce some measures to contain inflation. I’ll try to keep the transfer and wage budgets at the same time, if possible.
Cheers
so whats the word whats next ?
Hey guys, the webpage of userscripts.org has changed, the teams list can now be find at:
http://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/show/54608.html
Yeah, exactly my point, wrong place to talk about that and also a bit useless, I think we can keep it on e-mail level, but man what a reading, you should see those e-mails :)
I like the idea of using Davison as advisor on future stuff, it’s gonna be very nice to read I recon.
/BK
Davison and Berhan, can you please not have religion arguments in here? Appreciate that.
Cheers
Cub level is a different beast. So much regulations.
Without partnering with a big brother it’s not much chance of doing something significantly good.
I am undecided.
First things first, that is national team management, and if it does well, I have my ideas doing more but too early to tell at the moment.
/BK
oh right on mate. are you going the facebook route ? i sure hope so. i keep my phone a phone :P also are you going to have club level ?
I’ll use Davison as an advisor on upcoming enhancements/fixes ;-)
no, EU president, that shit need some serious stirring!!
/BK
it’s an app:
sharing some screens:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t2qtx756mm6qtn8/AAAhf4dXzeoH-Hplo-sPYYHGa
/BK
lol me for prime minister of England. id fix alot and i know where id start.
berhan wheres your game ? link ?
its never too late. with effort this game could meet its potential
Sorry guys, you lost me.
You have been walking the same path Peter and Martin did.
I’ve been there with my game, and know what I am talking about, I told you this before, it’s too late for you. I am predicting the same fate as SoccerSim.
A hint: look at your two last posts and you might spot the reason why I predict this is over, really not that hard to see..
/BK
Hey, the game needs Davison as much as Davison needs the game.
This is the kind of passion that drives progress, compared to the rest of the guys doing nothing for the game, at least he cares.
I’d put him PM of the development of the game.
Even if he uses other words than most of us would, you can not miss the message (and often the truth) in them.
Davison for President I’d say!! I am serious!!
/BK
Come on BK, have some faith :-)
I’ll try to be more organized in allocating time to work on RubySoccer.
i was gone for 5 days you know what you did …. i know what you did. have fun being a loser filipe maybe build your own club instead of trying to steal someones.
Lol nice to see it had the efect I wanted: pissing davison :D
As Gabriel said we can’t fire a player, davison was fired probably because he was away too much, like anyone would be… Sorry to see he continues to be allowed to talk about other people the way he does here, no more time to waste with him.
lol can you tell how much it means to me ?
Sunderland til i die
thanks gabriel.
First things first. I’ve deleted your post because it was offensive, but it seems pretty much everything you say is like that so there is no point in continuing. Secondly, the GMs have no power to fire other managers like that, and even if they did it wouldn’t show as fired for inactivity.
I don’t have all the data to see every little action that happened, we don’t log everything. What I did see is that you were not away for more than a few days and should not have been fired. I’ll give you your team back, you can stop complaining now.
Cheers
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well it is a big deal to me….. ive had my club stolen by a cunt whom immediately went on vacation mode..( 8 days now) and when he or if he is fired for being “gone” so long i wont be able to be manager of my club till next season or longer if i recieve no help Gabriel
i will be trying to apply as soon as that froggy lil piece of shit is fired… shall see if the game is really that fucked up wheres danio or gabriel do the right thing and put me back at my club that i was illegally removed from.
i also want him permanently banned from this game for what he has done.