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dont worry, we were not lecturing you :) just pointing that we also have bugzilla. also, thanks for pointing the bug on the bug. :) but i am sure whoever gets this issue will analyze if more things are necessary there.
I think the way it is now is okay, specially when the depreciation get implemented…
I think player’s value is just to have an idea in the begginning, with time the managers will have their own ideas of prices when looking for players…
I think people shouldn’t be able to buy and sell the same player quickly, at least a couple of turns before he’s allowed to do it… And every player should have in his history who bought him, for how much, etc…
Before buying a player the manager has to check everything, his club’s economy, players’ stats, age, how urgent you need him, if the player is a important one for the seller, etc… And everybody will have a different point of view about that…
Cheaters will try to cheat with or without it…
That’s my opinion… I think it’s good to have these players’ values, but I don’t look at it… Actually, sometimes I think a less valued player worths more than a high valued one…
I’m like Little, I just bought a player worth 2.3 for 1.85.
Now his value is 1.85. I dont understand how this is good for the game. If this stays in, you will have an inflated transfer market. All managers like a bargain when looking for players.
If a player is worth 5.0, manages like him for 4.0, and gets him.
If that player is then shown as worth 4.0, when that manager comes to sell him, he will have to go cheaper again.
Also, it could encourage cheating. Player worth 4.0, sell him to friend for 9.0.
Player worth 9.0, sell him immediately for 6.5. The manager who pays 6.5 thinks he’s had a bargain as he can’t see he’s really worth 4.0 and also can’t see he was only recently bought.
Gabriel, I think you need to look at this when you get time. Not as important as other changes, but it could unsettle the economics very quickly.
IMO Money will be tight outside of the big leagues, the players value should be constant and let the managers decide how much to sell / buy for. A false valuation will confuse buyers. The value should remain constant and not be affected by transfer fees, like in real life, the fee should be up to the manager, but the fee shouldn’t become the value. EG. Shevchenko 30.0
Just saw it… Interesting, just to keep being an ass… It’s not Speed and Control inverted on the 75… It’s Speed and Drible =P
Sorry guys, I must say I never saw this bugzilla thing hehehe… I’ll be more careful when posting…
And enter your own requests if not there yet ;-)
Nice post Ricardo. Considering the starting lineup instead of all players is what I have in mind :-)
About considering a little bit of recent performance and league positions, well, not sure yet how that would work, but we’ll discuss that when changing the formula.
that is on our plans. A suggestion is for you guys to also checkout what we already have entered on our bugzilla. You can see the open requests thru this link:
i am sure of how it is supposed to work :P but we may have a bug there, of course. will double check it. if the problem persists tomorrow, please let me know.
I think it would be a good idea to have the information of how many users are online on each beta near the next tick hour information…
And a manager list inside the beta with the managers that are online in the moment, so people could interact a little more inside the betas…
I think it depends on what you define as being covered by merchandise. The way i see it, it’s all the team’s stuff that is sold: jerseys, flags, pens, whatever, you name it. Any object that somehow uses your team’s name or logo. If my assumption is right, then the way it is now makes little to no sense.
Before reading this thread i had noticed the slight change of merch income, but always thought it was according to the league position. When the game started i had something like 50k every week, and it gradually went up as the season went further, stabilizing around 100-120k. My team was winning, my position was getting better, so it kinda made sense. Now i realise it was because the players were developing into better ones.
There was one certain tick when i signed 3 free young players, and the following weeks merch was struggling to stay close to 100k. To be honest, it didn’t cross my mind that it had to do with the new players. I remember making the comment with a friend that it was kinda silly that i placed a bet on the future and the fans got mad at me, but thought it was just a coincidence as i was in 4th or 5th instead of 2nd or 3rd as in the previous weeks. :)
After all, the stars were all still there, no one was sold, so everyone could still buy the shirts from their favourite players, with the bonus of being able to buy the ones from the future stars.
I understand that most of what Jah said is to be placed under the sponsors category, like the club’s past results and the club’s history. But i think that merchandise should depend on buying/selling a first team player and the club’s series of results, like the past 3 or past 5, mixing it with the club’s league position. Imagine your team’s on a losing streak and hasn’t won a match in the past 3 matches, and they keep losing league positions due to that. Are you as willing to spend your money on them as you would be if they came from 3 consecutive wins, reaching their league’s first place?
Speaking from my experience, my squad was way too short and its lifespan was quite short, so i had to add squad depth to be able to do friendlies without ruining my first team player’s stamina. Therefore, trying to “build” the stars of tomorrow. I know that, the way it is now, it might pay off if/when the young guys get their stats higher, but in the present the team gets affected with no real reason.
My suggestion, keeping most of the formula you guys have now, is that you do the overall quality average of the starting lineup and not the entire squad. That way you wouldn’t be so affected by getting new players, except if you decided to put them on official matches, and you’d definitly notice if you sold one of your best players.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers.
Maybe also have to review this one more time when coaches and training are added. To have the players with different training intensity to recover at a different speed.
Yes, it sounds good that teams playing in more than one competition have to rotate their squads a little.
Are you sure about that? Cause I never play official matches with my youths, and everyone of them had 2 matches and only one with 1…
But I played with them against Treviso both legs on the national cup, but not all of them, so they shouldn’t have 2 matches, only some… So I look at it again, and I saw the data is recent, and I played 2 friendlies recently which I use my youths….
Anyway, I’m at work now but I’ll take a better look at home
nope, it only considers official games… so we are ok.
about the rest, we will take a look.
cheers
I had 2… Don’t know for which team, but anyway, both missed… =)
The image does change, the mailbox flag is raised when you have mail and the border is highlighted I guess. But anyway, we have an enhancement for that already as it seems the change is not so easily noticed :)
Sherman is right, the factors mentioned will be considered by sponsorship revenue in the future. About merchandise decreasing that much I agree, I already have an ideia for changing it.
Cheers.
We’ll surely improve this screen guys, these are good suggestions. About the games, well, for now the screen consider statistics for all games, including friendlies.
Cheers.
i would like if the mail box flashed…
i had 8 penalties in last match, i think you must do something about this. lol
Any chance you could make the mailbox flash or change colour if you have mail ?
I know it tells you if you click on it or put the cursor over it, but if you check and theres no mail, then stay logged on and a message comes in while your online, you dont notice it straight away, then the other person is logged off by then.
Easy to do ?
I think merchandising will be like this, and what Jah say it should be like, will works for Sponsorship… Not sure though…
I like what Jah says. League position, success history etc should influence merch.
Signing squad players from free list shouldn’t affect it as much as Martins, imo.
Not trying but already being a pain in the ass, hahaha, I think in the average rating, there should be only 2 numbers after the , ( Don’t know how to say casas decimais hehehe… com os devidos arredondamentos )… Like 9,58… It would get the page cleaner…
About the numbers of the main players with the youth’s, it’s not only on their history, their abilites are not in line too… I think on the youth’s abilities and history, there is an “extra space” between numbers…
PS: numbers que eu falo são os dados que ficam em cima tipo: Keeping, shooting, drible, DP, AVG.GOALS… hehehe
ohh sorry!!! I just saw it!!
It’s good!!! hehehehehe
Only 2 things: This data is recent, right? Cause in my opinion it should only counts official matches ( League and National Cup )
And the other thing is just to adjust the numbers of the main players with youth’s hehehe =)
I really don’t agree with this one. I think merch sales should be influenced by club prestige.
Example: a club get a serie of wins, merch sales shoud raise. A big star was bought, merch should raise. the position in the league table should be an influence too. Selling a “first eleven player” should drop the merch sales. History of the club (league and cup win over the seasons).
This is just ideas…
regards.
dope! i know what happened. not so simple to reproduce, though. bug fixed. thanks for reporting it, charles!
it was done yesterday :). there will be more info on other places, but take a look there and let me know what you think.
thanks
Yes my overall team quality has decreased but more than 50% decrease in revenue is a little too much thx.