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Looks like I missed a Tigre striker for my dream 11.
M.Motta © – Ita – Tigre – overall 657
This brings the number of Tigre players in my dream 11 to a total of 7 (and 9 if you count Lago and Costa who also played for Tigre).
Hello Luc Blomme :)….
Loyal people indeed. Althought there are different “big clubs” now then when you left. Tigre for example is THE GIANT of the moment and Gijon and Liverpool in europe could be considered “The big clubs” there. Although Hertha never really left :)…our boy Philip is still around with the big boy’s :)
im amazed still the same names about!
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What a shame! Trying to fool the system! I won’t tell you whether or not it works :-D
Anyway, I feel this is not completely balanced but it is good the hear Dhimitri had some success by paying outrageous wages to young talents (that’s one of our goals). Other factors are yet to be considered in the player’s decision, the first team opportunity was just the first one included.
I will go with Sly and don’t reveal things anymore…but you guys already got the general idea ;-)
Personally I think gabriel shouldn’t clear anything up. Some things are best remained a secret. It makes the game slightly more unpredictable. It was one of the great features of Managersim back in the day. Nobody actually knew 100% how youth worked. In there a player could start growing because he joined a big club.
Filipe is right, a youth in academy simply improves 2x faster than out of academy (again Gabriel needs to confirm this), but the overall growth pts is set from his ‘birth’ so in the long run it doesn’t impact the player’s growth.
Players like those at Tigre or Palacio % Craggs are all extremes, rarities in the above 140 average pts growth benchmark. Ironically, Palacio is released from Tigre’s academy :D
One more thing.
Since season 31, Tigre has made only 19 buys between FT and FA. Of those 12 have become some sort of superstar (including LAgos and Costa). One is 26 and might still grow, so the jury is still on him at this point. And 6 have been resold without much success of growth (not including Lagos and Costa).
Now, that’s a 67% success in picking not the guy who makes it, but the guy who shakes it.
That is truly amazing. Kudos to him
27k over 80k is indeed extreme.
Sometimes though you could overcome an one year 80k bid with a 3 year 30k bid :)
Here are some of my winning bids in the last 3 season
1 × 60k
2 × 50k
6 × 30k (some of which on multiple years contract, 2 or 3)
PS: one other trick the i believe works (Gabriel can confirm this if true), I do have plenty of MA’s and one MD. So if i want to buy a mid, i switch all the above to A’s or D’s o have as less mids in line up as possible. And I have actually been buying lots of young mids in the last 3 seasons: 8 of them to be exact
I think even if a player dos not develop all he could in the youth academy he still can develop that later , but now you said that I’m not sure… We need Gabriel to clear all again :D
good to hear, Dhimitri, but how “more” worked for you? I offered most times like 10-15k and they decide for a 5k salary. The extreme was my 80k offer for the defender mentioned above, who prefered a 27k contract …
I think that most players have the potential to become a topplayer when they play all league games since their “birth”. Most of us let them play friendlies what give them less improvement points and won’t give them their total improvement in youth academy (where they improve more then afterwards if I’m not wrong).
IMO if you get a team in a competition with already good youths, get all your players from your own youth academy and let them play every league match you will get a pretty good team after a couple of seasons.
So these english players come from English teams that were not managed by a top manager. So they had the chance to improve maximal. This would also explain there low starting value. Jones even has a starting value of 97000 which is extremely low.
The only thing I can’t fit in is the 140 points improvement. Coleman has an overall score of 675 which make 435 at his “birth”. Would this only give a staring value of 116000?
it’s also striking IMO that four of those players actually come from England, considering that England, at least since the “birth” of these players has not been ranked higher than 6th or 7th
I had the same problem as you Philip when the rule was first implemented. I basically lost in any biding out there for a youth even though my offers were considerably higher. So i decided to raise the stakes even higher (raise the salary offer) and it has been quite satisfactory in achieving the players i wanted.
It does create a bit of a financial burden, but in the long run it does justify itself to pay high wages (relatively high) for young talents.
The way i see it, as long as it’s financially viable, a big club should pay more both to get the best grown player and to secure its financial future by securing the best future talents.
Still only recently i lost a bid to a young D even though my bid was 13k/year higher, but in a way i expected it to happen and completely share the rule here, because I already had 9 Defenders in my team, all better.
Still do not favor the new logic. Since you changed the system, I haven’t been able to acquire a single young player (from free transfer) if a minor club was bidding aswell. This is IMO as unbalanced as deciding on a wage offered basis. 16-18 yro should not decide depending only on their chances on first team, they are young and need qualified training etc.
In real life the majority of extraordinary teen talents favor to go a big club to improve rather then moving to Aserbaidchan or a Turkish 2nd div for playing in a first team instantly.
This decision making now in RS is unbalanced as well, in favor of minor clubs, and only minor clubs/squads.
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How do other “big clubs” feel about the situaton since the changes were implemented? Has anyone acquired a player against a minor yet?
You probably don’t know, but Alessandro Figueira is in fact Arsene Wenger, he just want us to think we have a chance :D
Don’t know how he does it but I sure would like to, most of that players have a low starting value even for the season they start their career…
I should have called it “Tigre’s team” :D It must be a talent to create such a team. Can’t be luck anymore.
Btw. Virginio Costa has increased to 668 overal. Haven’t checked the other players anymore.
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_info/130767
CLOSEST OFFER TO THE LISTED PRICE WINS THE PLAYER
Three players available for sale at Napoli – take a look and make your bid at http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/team_players/297
Isaac Zubero G – 27 90 – 86 – 90 83 93 82 87 39 100
Tommaso Grignani D C 25 - 93 77 72 91 86 75 83 82 58 100
Enrique Coronado D RC 27 - 90 73 72 84 88 100 94 86 47 100
Costa and Lago were also Tigre players sold to Bordeaux and Hertha. SO it is 10 players coming from that team.
For me the most impressive is Bertha´s goalkeeper
Wow, 8 players from Tigre! No wonder why they win Libertadores every season. Ch Craggs was sold by me to R.S. de Gijon when I was managing Cerro Largo…he is a hell of an attacker!
I looked around and picked my dream 11 and some reserves:
Goalkeepers:
- A. Palacio – Arg – Hertha Berlin
- X.Duflot – Fra – Tigre
Defenders:
- V. Costa (RC) – Bra – Bordeaux – overall 667
- R. Salgado (RC) – Bra – Tigre – overall 666
- J. Jardim® – Bra – Tigre – overall 646
- E. Novoa (LR) – Spa – Rio Ave – overall 636
- F Sampaio © – Por – Maritimo – overall 636
Midfielders:
- R. Coleman © – Eng – Tigre – overall 675
- B. Ferreira © – Bra – Tigre – overall 650
- M. Lago® – Bra – Hertha Berlin – overall 649
- S. Jones (LC) – Eng – Tigre – overall 648
- W. Bandeira (LC) – Bra – R.S. de Gijon – overall 645
- N. Branco (RC) – Bra – Tigre – overall 638
Strikers:
- M. Brimming © – Eng – Tigre – overall 663
- Ch. Craggs © – Eng – R.S. de Gijon – overall 654
- H. Amado (RC) – Bra – R.S. de Gijon – overall 649
- D. Carmona © – Bra – Liverpool – overall 643
I hope I didn’t overlook a superstar for the dream team.
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As it is in real life we what to make Manchester a club were young players do the jump from regular to world class players. With that in mind we what to maintain or increase the dynamic of bought and selling players. For that reason all players in our squad are available to negotiation for very reasonable prices. All players less than 30 years old are developing, even Team’s Capitan Robert Austin, and all of them we believe can be future top class players or they would not be in the team. If you have interest in any player contact us for negotiations.
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Position: D
Side: L
Keeping: 35
Tackle: 98
Passing: 88
Shooting: 80
Speed: 94
Dribble: 85
Control: 86
Header: 90
Coaching 9 needed and you need to pay his wage :)
This is something we need to enhance in the match engine, keepers are stronger than they should be because usually the number of shots is higher than it should be.
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I noticed that my team in fastticker (PSV) often has more shots than the opponent, but still doesn’t win that often this season. The cause of this is easy to see if you look at the stats of the keepers of my opponents:
Telstar 9.5
Top Oss 8.8
Roosendaal 8.5
Vitesse 9.5
AGOVV 7.8
RKC Waalwijk 6.8
Willem II 9.0
NAC 8.5
Feyenoord 9.5
De Graafschap 8.5
NEC 7.5
Sparta Rotterdam 8.8
Fortuna Sittard 9.0
AZ 8.2
Heracles 8.0
Eindhoven 8.2
ADO Den Haag 9.0
Average more than 8.5
I don’t know what the average of all keepers is, but I do suppose it’s no more than 7.5 (I do think keepers get higher rates than field players). So for some reason a lot of keepers play one of their best games against my team. I guess it’s just bad luck?
Sunderland looks like a young team ready to do some damage to everyone.
a few good players for sale still everyone.
whole sale
Alencar Couto – MA – 24 yo – 609 overal pts
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_info/131560