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Sheffield United – Cardiff City 5-0
4-2-4 formation 3-5-2
50% possession 50%
20 shots 17
17 shots on target 14
88% accurrate passes 93%
69% effective tackles 53%
1 corners 4
5 offsides 1
6 fouls 8
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/1561116
Looking at the stats, it seems quite a balanced game and that makes score looking a bit out of place, but that’s far from being my problem.
It’s the second season SU plays with 2 defenders as wingbacks in midfield, which is the case with their 2 mids in the 4-2-4 formation, Foreman and Watts respectively.
From the tactic, the 2 mids/wingbacks, pull inside the center whenever the opposition gets the ball. From there, one of the 6 D’s makes a tackle, collects the ball, huffs it forward to one of the 4 strikers, who then dribbles all the opposition defense and their grandmas goes to score with a knife in butter type of ease.
Three simple steps
Tackle – Huff forward – Run & Score
But there’s more to the genius behind such simplicity: Apperantly, because the opposing team has practically no midfielders, my three moronic defenders, finding the empty midfield in front of them, forget their defending duties (Despite having 4 strikers to watch for) and rush forward, leaving my own half at the mercy of the opposing strikers. It’s enough to see that each of my defenders have made at least on shot on goal, and basically accounting for half the shots my defenders have made all season.
Purely from a tactical standpoint, we have a 6-0-4 formation obliterating a 3-5-2 formation. And Cardiff has (to my understanding)one of the top midfield in the world. In an Ollie and Benjie fashion, the Cardiff midfield gets annihilated by simply passing the ball “over” the midfiel
Anyway, some interesting technicalities.
-If I am not wrong the Ds playing as Ms, lose about 3 pts per skill, which is a lot:
Original Foreman Skills 82 75 73 87 89 74 84 Avg 81
Playing in midfield Skll 79 72 70 84 86 71 81 Avg 78
Original Watts Skills 91 69 73 86 91 89 90 Avg 87
Playing in Midfield Skll 88 66 70 83 88 86 87 Avg 84
-Both players are horrible passers
-Only Watts has any value as a tackler, Foreman is simply a mediocre player on all accounts
-Indeed, from personal stats, Foreman has only one successful tackle to account for on two attempts. No passing, no shooting. Basically, Foreman was not on the pitch, meaning I lost 5-0 to a 10 men team.
-There’s a equal possession even though Cardiff is by far a better passing team, with an average of 10 passing pts higher (A universe away), but most importantly, they have no midfield.
So, I am a bit baffled.
This is not RL, far from it, but are we not trying to emulate as much as possible the RL game?
Once we just concentrate on the fact that this is the game, and numbers are the rule, then:
WHAT HAPPENED?
BECAUSE
IT SHOULDN’T HAVE HAPPENED!!!
Losing against a team that is might inferior in all but two skills: Keeping and tackle (by 3 pts)
Against a team that practically had only 10 players on the pitch.
Why am I playing this game, if there are no rules to it, no principles on which to rely on? Of course i can put a different tactic to beat that same Sheffield team tmrw, but the point is that, simple as the air I breath, that that tactic had no point enjoying and sort of success, let a alone a 5-0.
It is tiresome dealing with such randomness, and that is a huge understatement.
The way I see it:
- The tactic used could be quite sound with the right players. It’s not the case with SU, with those two Ds completely out of sorts, and a shitty team overall!
- In addition, 424 such as United’s is not a possession tactic, the stats are again out of sorts. (this a more complex argument, but it’s too friggin obvious in this case)
yeah, scouting function is awesome :). You just need to know how to use it :)
It worked in Chrome.
I checked with FF again: didn’t work there.
Back to Chrome: suddenly there it didn’t work either.
Logout, Login with Facebook, Logout, and it worked in Chrome again.
Strange….
no, it’s very good, come on..
Hi everybody,
I remember in managersim I was playing in a slowly matchs-per-week modes. I don’t have too much free time, and Mediumticker is a bit fast for me. I’m standing, and I’ll do, loosing 2-3 consecutive days of seing the team (with its results consecuences).
¿It would not be possible to create a Slowtick mode? Simply, 1 or 2 ticks per day.
OK, about cheating in transfers, I think there would be two reasonable measures:
- make a logic to calculate minimum and maximum value asked or offered for a player (specially important the minimum)
- in managersim there was a limit of 3 operations between 2 clubs per season (including loans and players included in some transfer as part of the payment). It is reasonable, in real life it would be hardly to find more than 3 operations between clubs in a season
Hi Dimitri,
I now about the 1 year delay approx, but I’m less than a week in Rubysoccer. Although, I was managersim player, and I can say that I loved to build the team, I absolutely agree with you on that.
But I love the possibility of chosing between several professional leagues (great the inclusion of American leagues, but I miss some European leagues), and the feeling of hapinness with your team just because you built the team, and you now which are the real objectives (salvation, 5th place, champion, promotion, whatever).
I love, too, the transfer mode. I hate the hattrick-type mode of transfer (not just asking with a single bid, but uploading each second to see if your offer is the higher, obeying you to spend nonsense-hours and hours).
Hello RubySoccer-all!
Oh heavens! How could I have spend so much time in founding the successor of the wonderful soccersim/managersim!!!!
I don’t remember the name of my world (¿3 league matches per week aprox?), but I was Lech Poznan, and during the last months of managersim, Le Havre manager.
I’ll try to expand this site between the old-managersim users I know, and to attrack new football interested.
Presently, Celta of Vigo in Mediumtick!
it doesn’t shock me you don’t get it
2 still growing players for sale:
Zéphyr Fourrier (last grow in tick 50)
Age: 23
Position: M
Side: R
Tackle: 84
Passing: 92
Shooting: 78
Speed: 96
Dribble: 76
Control: 100
Header: 93
Claude Masse (last grow in tick 46)
Age: 20
Position: A
Side: LC
Tackle: 80
Passing: 67
Shooting: 84
Speed: 81
Dribble: 88
Control: 95
Header: 81
Bid away!
it shocked me that all of you miss my point:
just remove the thing is useless and bullshit be your own scout
Actually it seems to work on Chrome now.
The scouting level only determines how much turns you must wait to do another search, the search result is the same if you have level 1 or 10… If you use the search engine very often than you should have a good level there, if not its a waste of money. To get better results you must change the requirements of the search, it will always find the 100 lowest valued players for the requirements you ask, if you ask for any player with more than 60 tackle the results will be shitty no doubt…
I use the script but care no attention to the average skill, almost every position in the field doesn’t require some skills so even if a player has those skills at 60 he can be a good one… It can be useful if you want to determine how the game evaluate your team as I think it does that by the average skills of a determined number of players…
Also I think this script more like a price for active managers that take the time to check our forums so should continue to be allowed and not implemented in the game IMO…
Eh, do screenshots also help?
I now tried with Chrome.
Login with Facebook → werks fine
Login the normal way → doesn’t work
(difference is that I don’t have any teams with my Facebook-account)
I can also try to login with google….
Can you make an small video showing you acessing the page?
@Davison, it is true if you are not good with maths :)
ive read the guide but the scouting results for 10 scouting have been utter shite for me . might work for you but has never workd for me crap results or over priced shit
what dimitri said ^
It’s gamewise a useful feature, since it gives players who take time to read the guide an advantage.
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_info/170627
keepers link :) 15m 90 save only 28 good other stats too
this isnt a question thread, this is suggestions its implyed. why is scouting such a useless pile of shit ? there theres a question for ya
Yes, it does remember that.
I´m using FF 6.0 without any problem. I dont use facebook login. Is greasemonkey script enable on your teamplayer list?
When logging in with Facebook it does work. The problem is with my normal account.
Maybe it isn’t the script that is bugged but the facebook login? I have no problem wirth FF6.0 and my “normal” RS account.
6.0
what version FF are you using?
Or not quite, as the next login it was gone again.
To see it, I need to logout, connect with facebook, enter dimension, exit, logout, login with my normal account, enter dimension.
I would of course prefer it not to have to do this again and again.
Any idea how I can solve this Ulisses?