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Looks cool, but it’s not in english
Great young player still improving
Posição: D
Lado: C
Guarda-Redes: 37
Desarme: 85
Passe: 83
Remate: 71
Velocidade: 90 -
Drible: 88
Controlo: 100 -
Cabeceamento: 96 -
Agressividade: 49
Price is negotiable
Maybe some don’t leave, guys like Felix, Rene, Morastica or Tadeu have a long history and titles won, I dont think they would like to start over instead of getting a chance to play fair and keep their accounts.
I agree with you that having to start over and having a low ranking and slower player improvement could be helpful to discourage cheaters but it would have repercussions on all the game that could be harmful, new real managers (not cheaters new accounts) would also have more difficult to improve players and we can’t make the game even more demotivating for them…
Filipe I agree with you but if you do that the player identified as a cheater will erase that acount and start another one…. And you say that its dificult to find… it´s more or less the same thing…
Just one point: If the principal areas are dependent of manager ranking… like the grow of youth player and the appearance of new youth players… instead of countrie ranking (I saw that the managers that are identified are playing in the strongest leagues…) when a player is baned and start a game from zero he will have more dificults to cheat…. I know the new players…. like in the real life a new player have to work more and wait from the failure of the top coaches to get that position…. this can discourage players to cheat… I think… and gets the game more interesting mainly from the players from weakers leagues …
Summary…. For me cheatears is to ban…. and with some rules we can wait that it´s not interesting to came back….
Best Regards
Thank you Dhimitri.
Good site Charles… I Think it´s very important have a place with every rules of the game.
Thank you booth
I think there are some options we can take before having to resort to that Charles, but I agree in some cases that would be the right solution… The manager reputation is a good thing, personally if I see a manager without 100% reputation I dont deal or even speak to him, any title he achieves means nothing to me. This is not the case for everyone and I know most of this cheaters don’t even care to have a bad reputation so more aggressive measures must be taken, if a manager caught cheating he would be fired, lose reputation and with it:
- could not sign for a team with a determined average skill level (would depend on manager’s reputation), this would prevent cheaters from getting on great teams (V. Guimarães case)
- could not make any transfer for a determine period of time (depending on manager’s reputation)
- Could not manage a national team for a determined period of time (depending …)
- lost of all titles won in a previous determined time period (depending…)
This and more could be done so this cheaters can be punished and eventually, after a long period without any suspicion they could have their reputation restored, I call it an educational punishment :D If we ban them they probably return with new accounts and unlike Dcaniva said it will be much more dificult to find them and ban them again, this way we know exactly where they are and what they are doing.
Charles transfer list is a great idea too, that would be much helpfull to find new cheaters, but as my suggestions all this is depended on how easily can be implemented in the game by Gabriel and Danilo, they more than anyone are tired of this cheaters crap…
thats true :)
However, i think a zero tolerance should be taken with cheaters. It seems to be this is all we’ve been talking about for the last little while.
If a cheater cheats from a network where several other users are coming from, I think the best way to handle it would be to ban the entire segment.
Yes some managers will be angry they got banned for something they did not do, but i think most would agree that this would be a good way of reducing (greatly) the amount of cheating. Zero tolerance policy (maybe on a case by case basis?)
For example, Manager A cheats from network 10.10.10.1
Three other managers are from that same network.
If Manager A cheats, Manager B, C and D are also banned.
In this manner, you would be taking care of the first manager and possibly his other accounts as well.
A cheater probably only has so many networks they can join from before either giving up playing or actually starting to play nice again…
Is that too harsh? If i refered someone who’s into the game, but has started cheating, it would bother me if my account was banned due to this player cheating. I would take it up with him myself and ask him whats going on and such and such…
Maybe its too drastic, but we are seeing good clean players leaving the game due to cheats, how is this any different? At least in this manner, we are actually getting rid of cheats (as well as some collateral damage)
Maybe users would think twice before referring a friend who cheats…
Well, guys, such things happen in real life as well, clubs doing illegal stuff, rigging games, etc.. this adds realism to the game way more than we give credit to it..
/BK
Sorry Dcaniva, but i don’t think cheaters will dissapear… better game or not, these guys aren’t here to play the game fair, they are here to try and exploit deficiencies in the system… but i agree with everyone else, cheating has to be curtailed somehow…
as i said, having a page where you can see all the transfers being made, i’m pretty sure everyone would be on that list every day and would report and suspicious activities…
in case others don’t know about this wiki site. Not complete but its a start :)
http://www.rubysoccer.com/mediawiki/index.php/Leagues
goal difference :)
followed by
most goals scored if goal difference is the same.
Like I already say in other topic…. forget the cheaters… and the rules to anti-cheating… if someone have cheat that person shoul be ban… end of storie… if can back with other acount ban again, and lets make this a better game with better solutions…. Its Urgent review the system of youth players (in a few seasons we will had only south american and French players)…. the value of the players (some players with the same average have stupid diferent values)… and so long….
If we have a better game more players will play this game…. and the cheaters will desapear…
Best Regards
Well, I think the best “punishment” would be not selling players to them, no matter how much they pay?
Seriously though, one not so entirely problem-solving thing could be removing the “value” column for players. That would be an interesting experiment. At the end of the day, does it really matter if someone runs 10 accounts to cheat? I am truly amazed they have the time for doing so and perhaps they deserve getting the benefits after spending so much time working the system so they can get lots of virtual millions..
BK
You are right Dave, Felix and some other known guys have been cheating for a long time in the game. We figure that some time ago, the thing is we had to make a decision, ban their accounts and hope they quit cheating or quit the game, we risk they don’t quit and come back with new accounts starting all again, this time more careful and hard for us to detect. Or as we did, implement the reputation system so everyone could know they are cheaters, I agree we should have more penalties for low reputation managers (not manager big teams, national teams…).
I think the decision was right, at least this way we can keep an eye on them, multiple accounts have been abandoned, suspicious transfers stoped, and guess what, they started to perform bad lol
As you said I also can’t understand why this guys cheat at a free and under development game, is as they want the game to fail or something… Yet as it seems cheaters wont get out we must find the better and the smarter ways to deal with them, suggestions are welcome as Gabriel always says :D
You are right Dave, Felix and some other known guys have been cheating for a long time in the game. We figure that some time ago, the thing is we had to make a decision, ban their accounts and hope they quit cheating or quit the game, we risk they don’t quit and come back with new accounts starting all again, this time more careful and hard for us to detect. Or as we did, implement the reputation system so everyone could know they are cheaters, I agree we should have more penalties for low reputation managers (not manager big teams, national teams…).
I think the decision was right, at least this way we can keep an eye on them, multiple accounts have been abandoned, suspicious transfers stoped, and guess what, they started to perform bad lol
As you said I also can’t understand why this guys cheat at a free and under development game, is as they want the game to fail or something… Yet as it seems cheaters wont get out we must find the better and the smarter ways to deal with them, suggestions are welcome as Gabriel always says :D
Very good graphics and improving, If anyone want to try it this is the link
http://manager.forosdefutbol.es/abonados.php?419
If you can proof he’s a cheater, do so.
If you can’t, then don’t say he is one.
Hey… Felix… I resigned from Roma in fast ticker. And I resigned from Fortaleza in medium ticker.
Quick, make up a fake profile, and get whatever decent players I have on Roma!!!!!! Just teenagers in Fortaleza in medium… so… no need to make a fake manager for them!
Enjoy people!
I’m glad someone tried to replicate managersim. Cheats just ruin everything. I have enough dumb shit to deal with in my real life. I don’t need to deal with dumbass Brazilians with no life, cheating at a free game.
Adios MFers!!! LOL
Felix Cardoso continues to play here.
Philipp Leibeck does not.
Who would YOU rather play your game Gabriel? Who?
Would you rather go up against Philipp, and beat him… and KNOW you beat a worthy adversary???
Or would you rather lose to a CHEAT like Felix Cardoso (and his type)????
Say what you want about not letting cheaters win. They are winning. Every time you find a cheater, and let him/her continue to play with others that do not cheat… you cheapen your game.
And you lose quality people like Philipp.
Enjoy your time with Felix.
Just want to keep this topic up top.
Felix Cardoso is a CHEAT.
plain and simple. he says he is “clean” in “Medium ticket” (sic). I guess that means he “only” cheats in fast ticker. swell.
I am going to remind everyone, over and over, that Felix is a cheat.
Because no one else here seems to care. So… why should I care about outing him???
He is so “good” that he gets to manage National teams? This game is a JOKE. Seriously. You keep a cheater here? AND let him manage national teams? Great. I will make myself annoying here then…over and over.
Block me.
You can’t seem to block cheaters.
You mean the Canadian Julian de Guzmán and the Dutchman Jonathan de Guzmán ;)
I would like to know what is the first point of untie in the league?
Thank you
How nice such a diversity.
Charles, De Guzman was transferred from Mallorca to Villarreal. Great brothers pair, Canadians De Guzman
Nice off-topic Apple vs HP-MS kind-off :)
Hi,
Interesting ideas, but I agree on the rejection to better youths for smaller clubs. We all know great youth academies are from Ajax, Barcelona, Arsenal, etc. But don’t forget that there are smaller clubs with very active youth “production”. In particular, in Spain (closer example for me) Leganes, in 2ªB (immediately down to 2nd division) has a great academy, and has forgotten a bit the glory-sport issue of reaching 2nd or 1st division. I imagine other countries clubs would have same philosophy, so it should be possible to implement an option of an academy of youth, but with same options for big and small clubs.
So, there would be managers that would prefer to built slowly the team, and make money with some promises. Others managers would prefer to make a stronger team in one seasson to dispute competitions and change team after getting it.
Both are valid and respectable.
In the league matches you play with weak and strong teams…. thats the point I think…. and you will have allways other strong teams to play the friendlys….
Yes it is :P but if we have the warning for transfer list mite as well have it for the free transfers
think the FT warning is abit to easy to get players Mr. Silva :)
Cardiff selling:
Armando Liano, 94 keeper, 92 avg skill, 25 yo
Mairon Rocha, 91 striker, 88 avg skill, 24 yo
Kenzo Leclercq, 89 striker, 87 avg skill, 24 yo
Prices negotiable as always :)
Whould it be possible to be warned when a player form my hotlist is on the free transfer? It probably wont be that hard to do as we already have the warning for transfer listed players…