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You are right Dave, Felix and some other known guys have been cheating for a long time in the game. We figure that some time ago, the thing is we had to make a decision, ban their accounts and hope they quit cheating or quit the game, we risk they don’t quit and come back with new accounts starting all again, this time more careful and hard for us to detect. Or as we did, implement the reputation system so everyone could know they are cheaters, I agree we should have more penalties for low reputation managers (not manager big teams, national teams…).
I think the decision was right, at least this way we can keep an eye on them, multiple accounts have been abandoned, suspicious transfers stoped, and guess what, they started to perform bad lol
As you said I also can’t understand why this guys cheat at a free and under development game, is as they want the game to fail or something… Yet as it seems cheaters wont get out we must find the better and the smarter ways to deal with them, suggestions are welcome as Gabriel always says :D
You are right Dave, Felix and some other known guys have been cheating for a long time in the game. We figure that some time ago, the thing is we had to make a decision, ban their accounts and hope they quit cheating or quit the game, we risk they don’t quit and come back with new accounts starting all again, this time more careful and hard for us to detect. Or as we did, implement the reputation system so everyone could know they are cheaters, I agree we should have more penalties for low reputation managers (not manager big teams, national teams…).
I think the decision was right, at least this way we can keep an eye on them, multiple accounts have been abandoned, suspicious transfers stoped, and guess what, they started to perform bad lol
As you said I also can’t understand why this guys cheat at a free and under development game, is as they want the game to fail or something… Yet as it seems cheaters wont get out we must find the better and the smarter ways to deal with them, suggestions are welcome as Gabriel always says :D
Very good graphics and improving, If anyone want to try it this is the link
http://manager.forosdefutbol.es/abonados.php?419
If you can proof he’s a cheater, do so.
If you can’t, then don’t say he is one.
Hey… Felix… I resigned from Roma in fast ticker. And I resigned from Fortaleza in medium ticker.
Quick, make up a fake profile, and get whatever decent players I have on Roma!!!!!! Just teenagers in Fortaleza in medium… so… no need to make a fake manager for them!
Enjoy people!
I’m glad someone tried to replicate managersim. Cheats just ruin everything. I have enough dumb shit to deal with in my real life. I don’t need to deal with dumbass Brazilians with no life, cheating at a free game.
Adios MFers!!! LOL
Felix Cardoso continues to play here.
Philipp Leibeck does not.
Who would YOU rather play your game Gabriel? Who?
Would you rather go up against Philipp, and beat him… and KNOW you beat a worthy adversary???
Or would you rather lose to a CHEAT like Felix Cardoso (and his type)????
Say what you want about not letting cheaters win. They are winning. Every time you find a cheater, and let him/her continue to play with others that do not cheat… you cheapen your game.
And you lose quality people like Philipp.
Enjoy your time with Felix.
Just want to keep this topic up top.
Felix Cardoso is a CHEAT.
plain and simple. he says he is “clean” in “Medium ticket” (sic). I guess that means he “only” cheats in fast ticker. swell.
I am going to remind everyone, over and over, that Felix is a cheat.
Because no one else here seems to care. So… why should I care about outing him???
He is so “good” that he gets to manage National teams? This game is a JOKE. Seriously. You keep a cheater here? AND let him manage national teams? Great. I will make myself annoying here then…over and over.
Block me.
You can’t seem to block cheaters.
You mean the Canadian Julian de Guzmán and the Dutchman Jonathan de Guzmán ;)
I would like to know what is the first point of untie in the league?
Thank you
How nice such a diversity.
Charles, De Guzman was transferred from Mallorca to Villarreal. Great brothers pair, Canadians De Guzman
Nice off-topic Apple vs HP-MS kind-off :)
Hi,
Interesting ideas, but I agree on the rejection to better youths for smaller clubs. We all know great youth academies are from Ajax, Barcelona, Arsenal, etc. But don’t forget that there are smaller clubs with very active youth “production”. In particular, in Spain (closer example for me) Leganes, in 2ªB (immediately down to 2nd division) has a great academy, and has forgotten a bit the glory-sport issue of reaching 2nd or 1st division. I imagine other countries clubs would have same philosophy, so it should be possible to implement an option of an academy of youth, but with same options for big and small clubs.
So, there would be managers that would prefer to built slowly the team, and make money with some promises. Others managers would prefer to make a stronger team in one seasson to dispute competitions and change team after getting it.
Both are valid and respectable.
In the league matches you play with weak and strong teams…. thats the point I think…. and you will have allways other strong teams to play the friendlys….
Yes it is :P but if we have the warning for transfer list mite as well have it for the free transfers
think the FT warning is abit to easy to get players Mr. Silva :)
Cardiff selling:
Armando Liano, 94 keeper, 92 avg skill, 25 yo
Mairon Rocha, 91 striker, 88 avg skill, 24 yo
Kenzo Leclercq, 89 striker, 87 avg skill, 24 yo
Prices negotiable as always :)
Whould it be possible to be warned when a player form my hotlist is on the free transfer? It probably wont be that hard to do as we already have the warning for transfer listed players…
We can’t start basing potential growth vs quality of the opponent. Because at some point, top teams won’t want to play vs weaker teams. Top teams will only play top teams (as was the case in Soccersim) I think the current system pointed out by Ulisses seems the fairest and the one that is equally beneficial to everyone. Easy to understand and use.
I think 11youths is too much…
Agreed with DaMaGo, a “Players recently transfered” list will really help everyone see the flow of the transfers and possible cheats. I think this is one implementation that won’t affect anything in the game except cheaters:) and will bring a lot more to the game itself by allowing everyone to see who is being transfered, at what price, to whom etcetc However, this list should be world wide and not country wide. Seeing ALL players being transfered will allow for greater balance. I think implementing it only country-wide will only be partially beneficial to everyone and its true potential will only be unlocked if everyone world-wide sees this list.
Congratulations Welington
I agree with you in everything… mainly in the influence of manager ranking in the development of new youth players…
I would like to warn that with the actual system the most of the teams in the weak countries only have south american players (mainly Brasilian and Argentine).
I hope that the ideias of Welington wil be applied.
I only coment this topic now because I only read this today, i think that all the players should read this.
Best Regards
dude, we do not know that, it could be the opposite really, hp stopping their competition with Apple, may actually make prices go up instead. What they did is kill the competition with Apple, now Apple can really dominate..
But I agree that having a smart-phone friendly gui would be nice to have.
/BK
Vaughn, because some teams produce more own products, there should be set rules of course, and that could be variable.
You do not punish any manager at all, smaller clubs will take more chances with own products because their economy is not as strong as a big club and thus giving chance to own younger players and then producing more quality-material players, not stars, remember. When those players given chance at a bigger club then could develop into better players.
Well, ranks have nothing to do with reality really.
What matters is culture, number of practicing mass of players. Also some countries like Sweden for example will never achieve the development of super players like the Brazilians because there are too many other sports to chose from. In some countries, specially in the poorer areas, there is only 1-2 sports to chose from, then the number of potential players are greater. Also, the BIG clubs do not develop their players in the same way the small clubs do.
There are ways to make it work really well.
BK
If you can’t pay Filipe’s goalkeepers take a look at Evaristo Bustamante (Malaga). ;-)
He isn’t that good as Paiva and Delcroix but he also has a 93 keeping and 93 speed. He certainly will save the points for you. Bustamante is still improving and probably he will improve when playing for a 1st league team. He played he’s whole life in 2nd division and deserves better. Take a look. He’s cheap for a young promising goalkeeper.
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_info/192793
BK, why should smaller/worse teams get better youth then a big team? It makes no sence at all tbh. Why punish a manager that is slighty better / more active then some other manager?
We all know that a higher ranked country has a better chance on better youth, so choosing a country when you begin or are playing the game is a huge difference. Going to France/Brazil will let you have a better chance, if you go to Greece/Colombia then you know 99% of the youth is crap.
If you all want to look at “real life” then you all should know managing a small team has disadvantage, but also an advantage that other managers don’t want that club. So you have time to build with youth (that is available to everyone) from the free transfer. Building a team from there and then getting to the top #3 of div1 will give you enough money/ players to sell for cash which can be brought back into the game to other clubs.
And Mura, you atleast try in english :)
By reducing the number of transactions and increased revenue from ticket sales, the main source of revenue for clubs should be their ticket and not the market players. Making it more interesting to worry about the player play a good tournament with good average to have the public revenue than just having to be at war with the other players a player to buy low and sell value.
Sorry but my English is by google
Mura
I think if him did this with bayern… the great hertha is in serious problems
Mind that in real life, clubs are in huge debts and that is ridiculous.
Making the perfect balanced economy in a game like this is a very hard task.
There are some things that can be done but you can never have a foolproof method to stop cheaters entirely.
When I was making my footie sim games, I spent lots of time thinking how to make it harder for cheaters to try to cheat.
That is simply a different topic, we should not mix it up with suggestions and game content improvements. I still have some ideas to make it harder for the cheater to engage in cheating, but his is a topic about transfer windows and more money being generated to smaller clubs.
Transfer windows is good idea, if you do not have enough time to play, who says you have to trade 20 players/season to win? And also there are different dimensions with different update frequencies.
Idea 2 is not realistic at all. If you know how it is in real life clubs, you know economy is a very tough thing specially in some countries. Giving smaller clubs more money simply like that is not enough. I think smaller clubs should get something else instead. They should get slightly better youths, and by that mean greater number of potential stars, while the best clubs could still get those star/superstars.
I think the core of these types of games is the players, and a better model of generating, developing and re-generating players should be the main priority and build everything else around that.
BK
Who knows what he’s thinking, he’s here since almost ever and we tried to explain to him it doesn’t matter the amount of money because there is no connection with the real life money. He cant understand that if there is 100Billions in the game and a player is worth 50M, than with 200Billions in the game that same player is worth 100M…
80M British pounds. This is 91M euro, 130M dollars or 12209M Kenyan shillings.
Anyway, what were you thinking, that soccersim dollars and British pounds are the same?
so agian people let cheaters scare them into not bettering the game opinion. 2 windows
if gaberial wanted to stop cheating so bad then why not have a system in the game WHERE 10-15% above est value is the highest you can put a player on sale. i mean really this shit is getting fuckn ridiculous ( prices) 80m was the most expensive transfer ever in football in real life. and that isnt even challenged for its number 1 spot get back to realism for fuck sake 2 windows
If you haven’t notice both selling keepers just improved their speed. Paiva improved 1 point, Delcroix 3 making 100 speed :D
Many offers have come but no one seems to be willing to pay the prices I ask, I admit they have high prices but the fact is you wont find keepers like this at the market, they are listed for teams that fight for everything and want to continue fighting, if you don’t plan to do that don’t need a keeper like this, there are many weaker ones for a much lower price…