Yep, I have done the same in the past and I agree it is not good for the game. I mean, financially it is kind of ok but the behaviour itself is not exactly how we intend the player market to work. Wage disputes and a better control of the amount of money in the hands of managed teams are two topics that I’ve been thinking a lot about lately.
With regards to wage disputes in player negotiations, currently the base factor for the player decision is how much you are offering compared to how much he would like to receive. From there we apply all the other factors, such as the player negotiation priority bonus, star player bonus, etc. So for example, if the player wants 30k and your offer is 45k, you start with a 1.5 “strength” to your offer. One of the crazy ideas I had was to change the base factor to be the amount you offered compared to the maximum your board allows you to offer. For example, if you offered 50k and your board allowed 100k, your “strength” is 0.5, whereas if another club offers 30k and the board only allowed 45k it already starts at 0.75, ahead of you! Of course, this is assuming 30k is acceptable for the player. I know, very controversial but it takes into the account the “sacrifice” a smaller team could be making to have the player, and also a bigger team would usually have more bonuses on top of the base strength, so even in the example of 0.5 × 0.75 after all the bonuses the first offer could still prevail.
Regarding controlling the amount of money in the game (with managed teams) we have some very interesting ideas where CPU teams could start selling decent players for large sums if there are too many clubs with a lot of money (meaning they have nowhere to spend) or they could start looking at buying players from less rich managed teams first (if they can find suitable options, of course). This is just the tip of the iceberg on these ideas because I don’t want to say too much on how this would work.
All this is going to take some time, I’m taking some time off very soon and won’t be doing any changes to the game for a few weeks :-)
Really? I thought you’d like this one :-D
I’ll add an option, no worries!
Updated player evolution profiles so that:
The main goal here is to improve the number of world class younger players, currently players over 30 dominate the top player lists all over the world. This should also make it faster to renew your squad when the time comes. These changes are effective for newly generated players only, existing players will retain their current profiles.
Not at all. Each different club class (when CPU controlled) will prioritise loans, first team players and future players in different orders. B clubs if I’m not mistaken would prioritise future players, then loans, then first team players. E and F should be prioritising loans.
Some time ago I was thinking of using the Negotiations level to provide a forced transfer price suggestion when attempting to do a forced transfer, similar to the way we have the suggested wage. In this case, however, as soon as you see the suggestion for a given player you would need to wait another 6 turns to see the suggestion again. How does that sound?
In some cases when player classes changed we noticed the estimated value was taking to long to catch up with the new class value range. That sometimes caused confusion and made it harder to make accurate forced transfer offers. We have now changed the logic so that the estimated value immediately catches up to a more reasonable value aligned to the new player class.
@Will you are not a moron! This tells me we need to make the way multi-position and multi-side works more evident.
@Joseppi and Dirk: maybe we can start with side only and allow a change from single side to single side or from multi-side to multi-side. In other words, if your player is L he can be trained to be C or R, but not LC or LR. If the payer is LR, you could train him to LC or RC. Does that make sense?
In the future the same approach could be done to player positions, and also maybe taking into account the the main skill for the new position must be no more than 5 points less than the current’s position main skill. For example, a D with 90 tackle, 85 passing and 82 shooting could be trained to become M, but not A.
Will, I think you are incorrectly reading the way sides and positions work. Let’s consider each “row” in the field has 5 sides, let’s call them L, LC, C, RC and R. A player with L side can play both on L and LC positions with no penalties. A player with LC side can play in all positions except R, without penalties. So a player having multiple sides is actually a good thing, as it gives him more options. The same is true for multi-position players (DM, MD, DA, AD, MA, AM), they can play in both positions with no penalties. There is a topic in our game manual about setting up the formation that mentions this.
That said, I still agree it is a good idea to be able to “train” a player into a new position or side. Maybe that makes sense only if the player is not already multi-side or multi-position? For example you could train a D into a DM or DA, but if he was already DM you could not change it. What do you guys think?
I’ve made sure this task was moved higher up in our priority list so we evaluate it sooner rather than later.
Team classes can now be seen in the league table and team matches screen. We can easily add that info to more screens in the future, if it proves to be useful.
Scout searches can now be configured to look only for multi-position (MA, DM, DA, etc) and/or multi-side (LC, RC, LR) players. If you do not check this option the search will work as before, looking for all types. For example, if you search for D with multi-position checked the search will only find DM, DA, MD or AD; without mutli-position checked it will also find D players.
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With the number of very rich clubs increasing, should we introduce some kind of tax over their transfers or profit in order to control the inflation? Do not worry about specific rules yet, they will be discussed if this goes ahead.
15% – Yes, a tax paid when the club sells a player (in some specific conditions to be determined) is a good idea
24% – Yes, a tax over club profits at season end (if they exceed a certain threshold) is a good idea
13% – Yes, both taxes are a good idea
43% – No, keep the game as is, free of taxes
5% – No Answer
Even though the majority (52%) is in favour of some kind of tax we are not going to introduce any changes. With such close results it is not worth spending the time and effort, we will look into other ideas to better control the amount of money in the game.
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In some cases it can. Basically the game calculates a factor based on how much you offered and how much the player wants. For example, if he wants 50k and you offer 100k this factor is 2. Then this factor is modified by the player priority (which can add or subtract 1 from it) and also by the hiring bonus star, which has no limit at the moment (we simply add up all bonuses).
Sometimes I think we need to do something to benefit smaller teams to try and give a chance to everyone and also pose a challenge to the top managers.
There is also the “hiring bonus” star players that can add up to it pretty nicely. Some people disregard these types of star players but I’ve seen what they can do multiple times in the past when people asked about why they’ve lost the bid for a particular player. I haven’t check in your case Dirk but I’d bet it is related to that as well.
I agree that computer players are paying too much in some cases, maybe we should change them to pay no more than the calculated “base price” which should be somewhat close to the estimated value. We can also change such values so that age players a bigger role, decreasing the values more than it currently does.
An important point is that the estimated value calculation is tied to the amount of money clubs have, so if you feel the high player classes are having too high values that means there is more and more money in the game, therefore introducing more money is not how we should solve this. I’ve been checking every season in FastTicker the sum of all the money in the clubs and that amount has been increasing at around 5% every season. The key is that the difference in cash balance between big earners and smaller clubs is increasing.
Apart from the first couple changes mentioned I’ll think a bit more about other ways we can bring this back to realistic levels, any further observations are more than welcome as usual.
The last poll is now closed. We had 87% of participation and, believe it or not, the exact same number of votes for each of the two options. That means we are not going to change the negotiation system for the time being.
Thanks for voting!
The game newspaper now has a section with the latest press releases written by the dimension managers.
This is now fixed.
You must have realised you cannot see any matches if you navigate to older seasons in your team matches screen or even national/international cups screens. We have existing history for all matches but unfortunately they were missing some key information about the competition they belong to and in which turn they took place. These things will be included in the match history from now on so we can use that history to display older matches in the aforementioned screens.
For now, if you navigate to older seasons in your team matches screen you should be able to see the list of matches that took place in those seasons, but you won’t have information about the turn and competition. In 2-3 seasons time when you navigate back to the current season that information should be there.
Unfortunately we don’t have that for players, when they’re gone…they’re gone! We need to start saving some key info when a particularly good player retires in order to build their hall of fame.
User friendly interfaces are not our strength, but we’ll see what can be done :-)
At least I’ll put it in our list as an enhancement.
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The merchandise bonus star type will be retired, meaning no new players will get it. We found out that it is the star type with less impact, partially due to the fact that some of its benefits are reduced due to the higher wage demanded by star players. As a replacement we have a much more exciting star type: improved youth players.
The new star type will have two main effects: improve the base skills used when generating new youth players (up to what is used in a top ranked country) and immediately increase player skills one or more times as soon as he joins the club. The first effect means that lower ranked countries with such star players would be able to generate better quality youths as if they were better ranked, whereas the second effect means it will be possible to generate players that have already skipped a few steps on their evolution, potentially even reducing the age they will reach their potential. All these details can be found in the game manual page for star players.
I suppose this could be one of the features of a future “youth academy” investment area. The higher your level on this more players would be available for selection as your next youth once you promote/release one of your current ones.
This is a really nice idea! We have plenty of statistics yet to be recorded for teams, leagues and players, this is definitely one of them. I still like the idea of having some stats for the “top” players retained somewhere upon retirement, we just need to be careful on the criteria to make sure we don’t store too many!
You are correct, the next match’s competition is taken into account when displaying the message for any of your formations, even the ones not selected for the next match. We can definitely enhance that, I’ll add to our list, I don’t think it’s there.
He could’ve been suspended or injured, in which case it wouldn’t count as a missed match.
We have an item in our backlog to improve scout searching, I’ve just added this option to it.
Nice catch! I’ve never noticed that “Team has the ball” and “Opponent has the ball” tactics were lost, I’ll raise a bug for us to fix this.
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The logic associated to penalty kick taking and saving has been simplified in order to better align with reality. We’ve noticed there were too many misses and saves during penalty kick, with the new logic in place should increase the number of goals scored in these situations. In addition to that the goalkeeper trait for “good at penalty kicks” and “bad at penalty kicks” will have a slightly higher impact.
Nice suggestion Bronson, I’ve added this to our list.
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I agree we need some improvements for the scouting functionality without going back to the easy way we had before (where a specific player report was provided immediately). I like both suggestions above and believe they will add value to the scouting investment. Once we do this we need to come up with a smart way to balance that with the existing scouting logic, so that it would slow down in case you’re scouting specific players or only allow one or the other to be active, not sure.