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Filipe, there were no strategy, only cheating. i decided to confess everything at the general forum.
Rui One word for you…………..Brilliant!!
According to an intel source, their names are Sergiy Migashko and Afonso Caldas, sold with 31 ticks difference, so maybe Hercule is missing a piece here when he claims it happened twice, one after another. Damn, how could my lawyer missed that!!!
Lince,
Eu tenho respeito por quase todos os managers. Acredita, és só mesmo tu e outro (e muito mais o outro, deixa-me que te o diga desde já para não ficarem dúvidas).
Tu porquê? Porque eu nunca falei de ti no forum, nem das tuas opções, e já é a segunda vez que vens falar das minhas. E o que é comum a ambas as tuas intevenções? Queixas-te de que não conseguiste comprar um jogador!!!
Está aqui um gajo a ser acusado de cheater e tu aproveitas a boleia para vires queixar-te de uma coisa dessas?! Isso tem um nome: mau carácter. Se todos se queixassem dos jogadores que perdem, o forum rebentava com o servidor só à conta disso.
Da outra vez era porque eu paguei muito por um jogador e tu ofereceste menos e perdeste-o. Ora imagina que todos os managers que já perderem jogadores para ti por causa dos ordenados que andas a oferecer viessem para aqui chorar? Alguma vez eu comentei isso ou qualquer outra opção tua? NÃO. Então estamos conversados.
A minha arrogância para contigo e o outro (especialmente o outro, acredita) vem da forma como falam comigo ou de mim, nada tem a ver com rankings. Podia estar em último que seria arrogante na mesma ao vosso nível, não merecem mais. Se atiras pedras queres que te trate com simpatia? Deves estar muito mal habituadinho. Levas resposta ao mesmo (baixo) nível.
O que é que consideras ofensa da minha parte? Só estou a ver as expressões “loosers” ou “girls” (ambas no plural mais por causa do outro, embora a carapuça também te sirva a ti, evidentemente, depois do que disseste). Deve ser isso. Só pode ser isso que consideras ofensa. Pois então lê o que disseste sobre mim antes. É que convém ter noção do que fazemos para tentar perceber o porquê daquilo que os outros nos estão a fazer a nós.
Quanto ao desafio (muito maduro, por sinal) de me convidares para um frente-a-frente, de modo a confirmares se te consigo dizer na cara isto mesmo que te estou a dizer por mensagem, pois é simples: manda-me o teu número pelo email do jogo e marcamos isso. Estou em Lisboa.
Sobre a lógica do meu raciocínio de compra e venda de jogadores, o meu tem toda a lógica, o teu é simplesmente absurdo. Acompanha-me na matemática (lá está a agorrância… em resposta a quê? À tua arrogância, quem diria), Lince ou lá como te chamas: se os jogadores que estão à venda custam 600 milhões e eu só tenho 380m, explica-me devagarinho como é que eu os posso comprar primeiro, como sugeres?
Tinha vendido antes para quê se os jogadores que me interessavam ainda não estavam à venda e eu não fazia a menor ideia de que iam estar num futuro próximo? Sou adivinho, por acaso? Querias que eu simplesmente vendesse por vender, a 3 ticks do final da época, para depois ficar sem o dinheiro na nova temporada? Isso é que é o teu raciocício lógico? Parabéns (agora não é arrogância, é só ironia…).
Quando eles apareceram à venda, eu tentei vender os meus o mais depressa que pude. Demorei. Vocês demoraram. E perdi os jogadores que queria, primeiro um, depois o outro. O outro gajo já sei que é burro, mas tu também não consegues perceber isto? Porra!!!
Achas mesmo que faço isso para chatear os outros?! Please, what’s the point? Não julgues quem não conheces de lado nenhum, meu caro. Nem acuses sem tentar perceber ao certo o que se passou. Muito menos acusações levianas num forum público.
Eu é que te ofendi? Ganha juízo, pá. Vê lá o que escreveste antes: “i loose one player, time and turns with your joke , the other players should do the same to you and certainly you would not like”
O que é isto?
My Joke?
Os outros deviam fazer-me o mesmo?
Mas alguma vez eu tive este tipo de comentários sobre ti?
É como te digo: atiras pedras e queres simpatia de volta. Cuida-te, pá.
Tu começaste a merda. Quando eu a começo, sou homenzinho o suficiente para me retractar. Isso não é arrogância. Arrogância é criticar e atacar os outros, sem os conhecer de lado nenhum, e esperar delicadeza em troca. Para ti serei arrogante na medida em que o fores para mim.
Mas há que reconhecer que disseste uma coisa acerta: “Mas fazes o que quiseres com a tua equipa obviamente”. Exacto. Então deixa de chorar no forum.
O facto de não me comprares mais ninguém deixa-me muito perturbado. Por favor não faças isso.
Enfim… tudo isto é triste, tudo isto é fado.
Haha :) i actually enjoyed that. Im intrigued to know who the big 500+mil players were! Everyone knows by now not to take Davison seriously.
After tears thrown away at Oprah’s, I needed 10 minutes to recover from my dramatic confession. But, as promised this morning, I then sit with the journalists to answer all the questions they had. Here’s the result.
Q: Why did you decide to admit cheating after all these years playing SS/MS/RB?
A: It was the second time a great detective we have in our community accused me at the forum. At the first try, no one cared. They thought it was just madness. But then the Hercule Poirot presented strong evidence and left me no other option but confess: Yes, I’m a cheater. A big fucking cheater. I’m not proud about it, but I simply can’t avoid cheating. It’s a kind of disease, I can’t explain.
Q: What did this Parrot find out about you?
A: Poirot. His name is Poirot, not parrot. Well, he discovered that, after I transfer list a player he would like to have on his team, I then changed my mind and didn’t sell the player. Twice! That was outrageous and leave me no room to hide behind the mask anymore.
Q: Did you sell that player to another team?
A: No. I kept him on my team. How could I have such behaviour?
Q: But how come that is cheating?
A: The guy was disappointed, don’t you understand?
Q: Ok. But we are talking about cheating here…
A: All of my life I got used to see Hercule Poirot find the guilty of a crime and, if he’s saying I’m guilty, that’s because I am! What are you trying to suggest?! Don’t you dare to question Agatha Christie, my friend, don’t you dare!
Q: That’s not my intention. I’m just trying to understand what happened?
A: Man, I already told you what happened: I didn’t sell a player to him, TWICE! At tick 138 or 141 or something. Not enough to you?
Q: Is there any obligation to sell in these circumstances?
A: Of course. If you don’t sell a player to Poirot and change your mind twice after transfer list him, you cheat. When you are talking about a great detective like him, you have to sell that player, it’s in the rules, man. You have to take his money and lose it all just 3 ticks later.
Q: I see: but if you didn’t want to sell that player, why did you list him, right? Twice?!
A: Exactly. That was my biggest mistake, my crime gun, if you want. I wanted to buy a player listed for +500 million, so I needed money. But all of sudden another team bought him. And I removed all my players from the transfer list. I should have complained to authorities about the other team buying the player I wanted.
Q: And that happened twice?
A: Shame on me. First it was a midfielder, then an attacker for more than +600m. I did it all over again, lost that player and removed my players from the list. That’s what I regret most. This has no possible forgiveness.
Q: What punish would you consider fair to your offense?
A: Life in prison, at least. But I would consider dead penalty, too. I should have sold that player.
Q: Do you have anything you would like to say to Poirrot now?
A: Yes. Thank you. I’m feeling much better now. It’s like a relief, telling the truth. His find outs might turn me into a better person. I’m learning the meaning of ethics, respect, fair play, all the good things sport can teach you.
Q: Poirot said you had an accomplice, his name is Filipe…
A: Yes, he helped me (Sorry to bring you down with me Filipe).
Q: How?
A: I think he was bidding on another player of mine.
Q: And?
A: Well, then I canceled his offer just like I did the others.
Q: And?
A: And what mother fucker?! Poirot is saying that’s a crime. Fuck off, no more answers…
Q: But one more thing, please… How many players did you end up selling in those final ticks to other teams?
A: I already answered that question. None! That’s why this is cheating you dumb journalist.
Gabriel its not the not being polite I’m worried about, he simply called us cheaters with no explanation about what that cheating could be, or any evidence it was really cheating… I’m all for open communication on cheating, I posted here some cases in the past even, but all the times I presented detailed information and evidences, I dont take lightly being called a cheater so I wont lightly call someone that too. Its simply bad character, and that I can call Davison, he present the evidences for me every time he posts something here.
I dont agree on that rule to make people have players listed, it is a free market and you can have a lot of reasons to list a player and be regretful just after… But if you dont see that I present another argument: If you go ahead with this you’ll have to make people not able to change player’s price for the same time (or the rule itself would be useless), now imagine you list a player for 50M, you get 3 teams biding, one of them bids 100M. You wont be able to change the price and the player will leave for 50M. I would consider that more annoying than a manager removing players from transfer list.
Lince, I dont know what Rui’s strategy was, but I’m sure there was one. He should be free to do that and you knew that could happen, so live with it and move on. I recently fired a top striker because I needed space on the team to buy some star players from Locomotive’s CPU manager (anyone paying attention knows what I’m talking about), of course a manager signed for the team and removed all players from transfer, any the case I still got a player, not the one I wanted and still 4times the price the CPU had listed him :D
I don’t know how difficult it is to implement, but I would find it useful if you could add notes to (your own) players. For example, if you’re considering to sell a player but do not want to put him on the transfer list yet; or if you want to give a player rest for some turns but don’t want to forget to select him later again. Or if you just want to remind yourself how you want to use a player.
Of course you can make notes on your own computer about players, but in game would be more convenient.
Com o novo sistema de economia poderia se colocar a hipotese de aumentar o numero maximo de jogador no planetel de 30 para 35, ora muitos; jovens jogadores por vezes nao sao guardados pois iriam ocupar espaco de um jogador titular ou bom suplente; com esse novo sistema de economia poucos jogadores estao a venda e isso poderia ajudar na evolucao de outros jogadores ter um pouco mais de espaco no plantel; é de facil implementacao e nao iria prejudicar ninguem…
Rui; vou te responder em português pois sera mais para entenderes, eu nunca disse que a culpa era tua ; simplesmente nao tens respeito pelos outros jogadores alem de seres arrogante so porque estas bem posicionado no ranking nao és mais nem menos que os outros e nao tens o direito de tambem vires para ca ofender os outros utilizadores ate porque nao te ofendi mas duvido que terias os no sitio para me dizeres isso na minha cara mas para ofender ja temos um determinado usuario…
O teu raciocinio nao tem logica ao dizeres que so vendes se comprares quem queres… primeiro entao compra e depois poe a venda pois se précisasses do dinheiro para comprar terias vendido antes ora nao precisas….. so fazes isso é para chatear os outros pois sempre esperas o ultimo turno para cancelar e depois um ou dois turnos depois voltas a colocar os mesmos jogadores a venda; nao me atires areia para os olhos porque nao tenho a tua idade. Mas fazes o que quiseres com a tua equipa obviamente.
Como te disse os jogadores deveriam fazer o mesmo ; nao te vender nada nem te comprar nada ai seria engracado; no meu caso nao te comprarei mais ninguem enquanto jogar; so me interessava um jogador que esteve varias epocas na minha pequena lista e quando o Napoli o vendeu nao tive oportunidade de estar online para dar oferta mas ate no meu caso mandei te uma pm a dar te um valor por esse jogador; colocaste a venda praticamente o dobro que eu estava a dar por um jogador velho que esta a perder caracteristicas; dei esse valor na mesma pois estavamos em fim de epoca e mesmo assim cancelaste… e voltaste a por na lista se isso nao é gozar com as pessoas….
No entanto concordo contigo quando dizes que é chato perder o dinheiro no fim da epoca….
Gabriel concordo sobre um usuario nao poder remover logo um jogador que colocou em lista de transferencia para mim pelo menos durante 4 turnos o jogador que esta na transferencia deveria permanecer; ou entao colocar uma clausula de rescisao que seria baseado nas caracteristicas, no valor que o jogador foi comprado e na sua prestacao no clube, como ja foi referido a moral dos jogadores tambem seria bem vinda.
I will ignore the sarcasm from Davison and Rui and reply to Berhan. This is not cheating per se but I agree we should not allow a player to be removed from the transfer list before he has spent at least 6 tunrs in there I’d say. And yes, once we have morale putting a player on transfer list will definitely affect it.
Now, BACK TO THE TOPIC’S SUBJECT…Daniel, some clarifications:
1- I can see 2 motivations to have a good performance and win competitions: have your name in there and securing more board points for the following season.
2- You’re not always getting new points besides the one already invested. Every season the game calculates how many points your team will have and give them to you. If they are equal or greater than the previous season you will see all your investments at the same level as before, plus any additional points available to be spent. If the new number of points is less than what you had in the previous season the game will randomly decrease levels from your investment areas until they get to a level suitable to your new total number of board points. Any extra points after this process will be displayed as available to be spent. As you can see it always looks like you are getting additional points, but in some cases your investment levels may have been automatically reduced from one season to the other. Too confusing? :-)
3- The points you need to upgrade do not vary according to your team’s level, the upgrades cost the same to all teams and the number of points distributed to each team depends exclusively in the team’s finishing positions in each competition in the previous season, the team’s country ranking and the remaining transfer budget from the previous season.
4- Not much to say about this one, I must agree the money aspect of the game has lost most of its purpose with the change, but at the same time the board points system added a new dimension to the game.
I’m not defending the new system, just clarifying its mechanics ;-)
Cheers
Lince, what do i have to do about what you do with your team???!!! if you decided to fire your player, it’s my fault? lol.
i just wanted to sell if i could buy the players i want. period. my decision. live with that losers.
gabriel, annoying is losing all the money at the end of the season. so why sell if you can’t buy? guess who asked for that and guess who implement it?
yes, create that mechanism so the girls don’t cry anymore.
i must agree with Berhan. fire those managers. ‘D’ Davison, who are they? :)
I won’t delete anything this time but I would appreciate if you could stop the accusations and offenses.
Davison, we’ve asked you over and over again to watch your language in the forums and to not be aggressive, but you continue to ignore that. If you disagree with someone or don’t like what they’re doing, such as what Rui did you have all the right to say something about it, but you could certainly do that in a more polite way like Lince just did.
Just to add my two cents to that particular situation, it’s not against the rules to do that but it’s certainly annoying. Right now I’m thinking we could add a mechanism to prevent a manager from removing a player from the transfer list more than once or something like that. But I won’t elaborate on that too much on this topic, which has moved away form its original subject some time ago…
Cheers
Its not cheating… but Rui you wait always last turn and you cancel the transfer list… in my situation i want one player in your team that player are in my transfer list 5 or 6 season and i fired one player to buy him and you cancel several times de same offer; i loose one player, time and turns with your joke , the other players should do the same to you and certainly you would not like
I just said to clarify the situation because for other people who do not followed the business and now see what Davison said obviously can have other interpretations. and just for the case, in my opinion if you remove a player from the transfer list just because “some” club is biding it´s agianst the rules. anyway, i don´t think that was cheating in these case.
60M
Well, that is a way of cheating, both managers should be fired from their clubs on the first occasion, on the second time, from the game.
Gabriel and Danilo, you have to introduce verification , like the facebook verification, so cheaters won’t create several accounts.
It’s going to take so much longer to do a new FB account and get new friends etc..
This is kind of thing that happened a lot back in the SS days as well.
If this really is cheating or not it has to do with the type of game you want to do with RS, if it’s like farming simulator, then managers will decide to whom and only if they want to sell to certain manager. Period. If you want to do a football sim game, then the HIGHEST BID wins, then the player decides where he goes. Since players in RS do not decide, then the highest bid wins.
To stop this meanwhile you do the player decision logic. Manager should not be able to take back the player when put on transfer list too quickly and ALSO give the players MORALE/STAMINA damage EACH time they are put on Transfer list. Doing it too often will harm you, that is the idea.
/BK
omg……DOPING I KNEW IT!!!
RS community,
following the big discovers bring back to light by our great detective ‘D’ Davison, i just want to announce you all that i will confess everything tonight at Oprah’s TV show.
after that, i will give a press conference where i will answer all the questions and assume everything. i just can’t live with this lie anymore.
stay tuned
you were trying to buy a different player, Filipe, which makes it even more an Hitchcock thing :)
on a side/ironic/hilarious note, in the old days, there were cheating when people sold players to each other, friends or double accounts, now there’s a new system in town: you cheat by just not selling your players hehehe. cause i just didn’t sell any of my players, you got that, right, Márcio? at least milan was biding, middlesbrough was biding, charlton was biding and a dumb was biding :) i’m a cheat cause i didn’t sell, that’s ‘D’ Davison’ hollywood story
So if I get it right, any manager that would have offered anything for Rui’s players (I remember they were 4 or 5 players) is a cheater… Rui did that a few times and I remember a lot o people was trying to buy his players, I was just unlucky as it seems Davison was also trying to buy this particular one…
Gabriel, I stand for what I said, he now cleared what the accusation was, only because I explained, I didnt had to do that, or I would have to explain every transfer or offer I do.
‘D’ Davison, you are just being yourself, ridiculous & dumb, i don’t know about Filipe but i can understand that don’t worry…
explain what Márcio (mptres)? i’m here for ages, everybody knows i’m not a cheat, neither Filipe, and everybody knows who is ‘D’ Davison. when Gabriel log in, he will deleted all these posts but i would like most if he keep them…
(a personal input for you: if i want a +500m player that is for sale i need to sell some players, but if someone buys that player before me i just don’t need the money anymore, cause i would loose it at the end of the season. and then a second player interested me but i lost him again. i even advertise that in this thread, telling possible buyers that they need to buy fast, so you can even say i advertised the cheating :) only a dumb is still trying to understand how the new economic system works… and sees cheating where there’s only frustration because he didn’t take his pills as he should)
rui, you should explain what happened to remove suspicion. is true that you have put players for sale, then you removed it, then you put them again for sale and then you removed it again. if he made an offer before you remove the players from the transfer list, it´s normal that he has suspicion. i would think the same. you should explain that cause it´s not normal.
cheers
then maybe you and rui shouldn’t try and cheat ? hmmm ? if thats not cheating then i dont know what is.
Rui more than you felipe but you were the intended recipient which means you are involved
at some point in the past i had the same opinion, Filipe, but i’ve changed my mind. it’s just too funny and i would miss it. let him bring it on :)
wait a minute, Filipe, what are you saying? are you implying that i did with your offer the same i did with ‘D’ Davison offer??? shit!!! i hope you won’t start saying there’s cheating going on with me and ‘D’ Davison… that would be a real insult to me
Thank you for replying Gabriel!
I would like to enumerate a few things about the new model:
1- One of the best things about the international/national cups were the money you get from them…. From home games, from advancing to next round, the money for the title… Is there any privilege for those who win champs now? Or it`s just about having your name as a champion now? Cause for this new model I think there should be something to motivate the managers to win the international/national cups…
2- Every start of season you get new points… Are we always getting new points besides the one we already invested??? Cause if we get new points for every season and still can manipulate the ones we already had, the tendence is to have teams all upgraded to LEVEL 10 and this way the inflation will effect the points, and not the money…
3- But if the points you need to upgrade vary according to your team`s level… the tendence will be everyone to have equal conditions on the begginning of each season, and this way maybe you are discouraging people to spend time on the game…
4- In the old times you could use your money to: BUY/SELL, UPGRADE STADIUMS, YOUTH ACADEMY, ETC… Now its just about buying and selling players, and even so, people will preffer to coach and discover new stars cause there wont be many of them in the market anymore…
I just want to understand a little bit more about this new system, and give some ideas to improve it… Cause I got 2 feelings about it right now… Or it`s going to have a points inflation or it`s not going to encourage people to spend time ingame anymore as every season " is a new start ".
Gabriel, you need to do something to prevent people like this to post in the forums, I dont have to and dont want to take with this crap in a place I like to read and write stuff, there seems to be a soft hand with Davison as no one cares much for what he says, but it has been long enough IMO. If nothing is done and he continues with the same approach I’ll stop coming to the forums.
About what I think are his suspicions, the only attempt of deal I made with Rui in the latest days was for the player Simón Larraceleta, Rui had listed him at the end of season for 90M or something, I offered 82M (all the money I had), for some reason Rui removed the player from transfer list (I think he removed all he had listed)
If he’s not talking about this I dont know what can be, I’m available to explain any deal I’ve made, I’m not available to cheap insult and bad formation.
oh im sorry i should have taken the screen shots. fuck off cheater