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Dimitri, what does that column tell?
/BK
There are currently two ways to quickly rank your players: estimated value and (with a script) average stats. The script (currently) only works if there is an estimated value and it’s unclear if the script will be updated.
But there is a solution: add a column for average stats in the game (as a replacement for estimated value, or in addition).
(and I know the average stats don’t say anything, but that is also the case for any other number in the game…)
Which means that if the estimated value have to be removed for some reason, it should be replaced by adding a column for average stats (in the game, not with a script).
(I’ll make a separate posting for it)
Thanks! Now I can make sense of the players screen again.
Sly, it works because Gabriel put the values back. The values will disappear again when the new scouting system will be added and the script will be down once again.
As long as you make it generally not accurate I’m ok with it, this should give the manager an opinion, which as he’s own may be wrong. Even for older players you should not make it too accurate. They could be more accurate telling you when players have done improving, that would be nice and not too harmful…
cheers
It works again, thank god! Saves me alot of extra work of tracking increasements. Not to mention too quickly view avarage stats of players.
Yes, the report will work for all players. In the future we’ll end up allowing transfer proposals for non-transfer listed players anyway.
Yes, the scout report will work for your own youth academy players, but as I said they will be less accurate for such young players.
Done..or should I say, undone.
Put back estimated value for players until the new scouting reports functionality is ready.
Cheers
I still have 2 questions:
- Will the the new scouting report work for all players? Transferlisted or not?
- Will it make you able to scout the potential of your own youth academy players? I hope not because only crap players will be on the (free) transferlist.
So, will the removal of estimated value be undone or not? I think the play currently is unplayable (making it very difficult to see quickly how good your players are), so this is an very important issue for me (not much point in continueing to play otherwise).
@Vaughn: interesting point regarding small teams, maybe I should reconsider the amount of time to generate the report being variable and use the scout level just to provide more accurate reports.
@Sly: Exactly, all your reports will be listed in a new screen, and also be available in a new tab in the player’s info screen (for the players you’ve requested a report, of course)
So if you ask for a new scout report on another player it will be added to the report page? So you can create some kind of list with multiple scout reports then I guess?
I kinda like it, but how about the small teams with these changes? If you put time to get a report back from your scout then the teams with scouting 10 will “steal” everything away before you even get a report back.
For example: if a 19 year old players get’s listed you want a report asap. If a big team get’s a report in 3 ticks and a small team in 10 ticks, the small team will never be able to buy a player trough the scout report. I think small team still won’t use the option scouting then.
exactly how i would of made scouting. thank you
Yup, I like it.
Yes, I am updating the scouting to make it more useful. I didn’t want to spoil the fun but I had to make it clear there would be an alternative way to evaluate players without the estimated values. I’ve created a new topic about the new scouting functionality: http://www.rubysoccer.com/forums/5/topics/2698
Hi everyone,
This topic is to give you a heads up on what’s being improved in the scouting functionality and give you an idea of how it is going to work. I don’t want to make it easy to find a player’s potential just by clicking a button, but the scouts should give you a rough idea of what the players attribute should look like once he’s fully developed.
Here’s how it is going to work. Right now you can do a scout search every (11-scout_level) turns, as long as scout_level is greater than 0. After the changes you’ll be able to do either a scout search or ask for a scout report on that same frequency.
The scout report is requested for a specific player and will not be generated instantly. It’ll take at least 1 turn and can take more depending on your scout level and the player’s age (the younger the player the longer it takes). You will be able to track the progress in a new Scout Report tab in the player’s information screen.
This same Scout Report tab will display the report once it is complete (and of course you’ll be informed by an in-game message). The report will consist in a number for each player skill representing the scout opinion of what the max value for that attribute will be. In some cases there will be no numbers for some skills, meaning the scout could not evaluate them. The report will be less accurate if you have a low scouting level or if the player is too young.
The report will be available to the team for a period of time (I’m guessing 3 seasons) and you won’t be able to ask for a new report of the same player before 1 season has passed. There will be a new Scouting screen separated from the Search screen where all the existing reports will be displayed.
How does it sound?
Cheers
I guess Gabriel is working on upgrading the scouting there is now to make it more usefull.
Google translate:
Gabriel, are all very good so far, congratulations.
However, you still have a little problem for you face.
I believe that my colleagues have mentioned that.
How will you do with the issue of club finances now?!
Will continue in the same way?!
I paid the points, have the resources released by the board and at the beginning of the next season everything is renewed in accordance with the points you paid?
Or is there some new system that you’re already thinking?
Gabriel, está tudo muito bom até agora, parabéns.
Porém, ainda tem um probleminha pra você enfrentar.
Acredito que os colegas já mencionaram isso.
Como é que vai fazer com a questão das finanças dos clubes agora?!
Vai continuar da mesma forma?!
Eu pago os pontos, tenho os recursos liberados pela diretoria e no início da temporada seguinte tudo é renovado de acordo com os pontos que paga?
Ou haverá algum novo sistema que vc já está pensando?
Filipe, how many seconds does it take you to evaluate a player based on age and skills?
And how many seconds to evaluate 5 players (the youths) and 30 players? (the main squad)?
:)
There are people who already try to contact Ulisses, so i guess we just have to be abit patient.
sly i think borh should be done. faster from 16-21 medium 22-24 slow 24-28 non 28+ plus having scouting thats being worked on
I’m not sure I like this scouting thing. Won’t that be to easy to just press a button and you suddenly get a list of players that will be stars? That sounds silly. I meen…yeah using starting value was also not very hard, but atleast you had to manually click every single player to see it.
I don’t think this is such a good idea. I personally rather have youths increase faster instead of being able to find them easier.
:)
hey everyone shut the fuck up.
you sound like a bunch of pussy ungrateful shitheads. crying over something we all knew was about to happen. he told us. the est value what inaccurate, unrealistic, a load of a shit, and a rookie way to see a players potential.. cry a river. complain cos your too lazy to acturally track a players performance per game ? so you rely on est value ?? come on now ffs.
Gabriel. keep up the good work. i think i know where you are going with this. and i agree with it completely.
im excited for the BETTERING of this game. i fully support it
this is a manageering game. i see IMPROVEMENTS.
how about all those managers asking fucktard numbers for completely shit players should do the right thing and just fuckn lower to the value they really are. or fire them.
clear the transfer market of absolute ridiculous prices if the player is good and has attributes and good performance to match then sure such high price is adequate.
its called integrity kids. get some
Am I the only one who likes the change? You actually look at the players’ skills before you check their value for once…