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===Score=(Shots on goal)
Strasbourg-Lens==0=1=(22-17)=[Lens plays with 10 players for 89 min]
Strasbourg-PSG==0-0=(17-3)=[PSG with 10 players for 23 min]
Grenoble-Strasbourg=4-1=(8-20)
Strasbourg-Lyon==0-0=(20-5)
Strasbourg-Chateauroux=0-0=(28-4)
Monaco-Bordo=0-0=(20-4)
Monaco-Brest=2-0=(18-7)=[Monaco with 10 players for 87 min]
PSG-Amiens==0-2=(24-4)
Ajaccio-Metz==0-1=(25-8=[Ajaccio with 9 players for 66 min]
Rennes-Angers==0-0=(21-3)
First of all I am not complaining!!! :D
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The games above are 10 out of a total 70 played so far in Ligue 1, or 14%.
Now, football is great because there are always surprises. But these surprises are created because the underdog works hard and outplays the favorite.
There are also freak games where a team surrounds the opponent (which has parked the bus in front of its own goal) and yet can’t score or even goes down on a single lucky break for the other side.
While the surprises are somewhat “common” and acceptable, freak results are very rare and far in between.
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All those 10 games above can be counted as freak games for various reasons:
>Endless shots and no goals vs 2-3 shots and a goal
>Whole game played with 10 players, the other team “dominates” the game, but you still stick one in and win it all: Strasbourg-Lens 0-1
>Whole game played with 10 players, but you still cruise through game for win: Monaco-Brest 2-0
>The Ajaccio-Metz is me favorite: Ajaccio dominates the game with only 9 players on the pitch for over 60 mins and still takes a loss. It should have won because of performance, but it lost (logically so) because it was simply outnumbered. The freak factor here is that Ajaccio still managed 25 shots on goal despite being 2 players less.
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SO, changes are needed here to bring the game closer to RL football so to speak.
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1. There should be a probability margin of scoring per number of shots on goal. for example:
10 SHG=80% chance of scoring at least once
15 SHG=90% chance of scoring at least once
20+ SHG===99% chance
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2. Red cards SHOULD change the course of the game in a negative way for the receiving side
1 RC should hurt the game of the receiving side in 90% of the cases (such as decrease the quality on the pitch by 20%)
2+ RC should simply kill the game of receiving side in 99% of the cases
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3. Players with not great shooting skills should still manage to score when they take plenty of shots even if it’s Buffon or Casillas guarding the net. The difference between a great shooter and an average one should be that if they take 10 shots on goal each, the great one can score 3 out of 10 an the average one can score just 1. But both should be able to score by the simple law of probability in proposition #1 above.
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4. whatever comes into your mind :)
On loan renewal the loan wage is recalculated based on the agreed loan percentage. For example, suppose the player wage was 5,000 and you agreed to pay 50% of his wage, so the loan wage is 2,500. If the player wage becomes 10,000 during the loan period, you’ll still pay 2,500 as the loan wage, but if the loan is renewed, you’ll start paying 5,000 (50% of the new wage).
i would also like to refer you to http://www.rubysoccer.com/forums/3/topics/738
There is a simple explanation, Humberto. Sometimes, when you use wingers, they do not receive or get the ball very often. This improved a little after the more realistic player movement and distance calculation implemented a while back, but this central behaviour is likely to change after we implement another enhancement that will add a new strategy option: play in the center, using wingers or mixed.
Good player for sale at Nice
Mark Thompson
Age: 33
Position: AM
Side: C
Keeping: 40
Tackle: 74
Passing: 73
Shooting: 89
Speed: 84
Dribble: 82
Control: 81
Header: 79
Aggressiveness: 73
Stamina: 98
Transfer Price: 5,000,000
I learned long ago those CPU teams can be very annoying :). Never underestimate them :)
Looking at the match replay, I would say Grenoble got me on the break, every time, so kuddos to them.
Yet I have seven players with a 10 rating, and this is what I cannot make sense of. :)
16-computerGrenoble
G Romuald Bloch 9.5
D Gervasio Ortiz De Zárate 8.3
D Diego Viepa 10.0
M Ruben Rui Miguel 8.1
M Napoléon Barraud 5.4
M Cyrille Peyre 5.8
A Joris Guyon 4.7
A Richard Hankey 4.4
A Giovanni Dentice 6.7
A Geoffroy Brunel P 5.7
A Fabricio Balaguer 9.4
No Manager
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4 × 1
2-3-5 formation 4-3-3
40% possession 60%
8 shots 24
8 shots on target 20
65% accurrate passes 56%
35% effective tackles 65%
3 corners 6
4 offsides 1
30 fouls 14
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Strasbourg16-human
G Isandro Munguia 5.9
D Willi Wulf 8.8
D * Germano Valente 10.0
D Julián Echeverría 10.0
D Mauro Braga 10.0
M João Abreu 10.0
M André Esteves 8.6
M Sandro Couto 10.0
A Andres Arieta 10.0
A Craig Whitington 10.0
A Vinícius Vasconcelos 7.7
Manager: Dhimiter Gjodede
Well, I noticed that ALL the best managers of the game don’t use wingers! Basically, all they do is to put the whole team to play on the center. The question is: why? Is that because of their lack of eficience at atacking/defending?
I agree that this kind of match shouldn’t be that common, Vaughn. I’m currently working on the match engine, implementing partial tackles (when the player makes the opponent lose the ball but does not control it) and a few other enhancements will follow this one. Let’s see if these weird results are affected by them.
I’ve seen statistics like this when you don’t have any defenders on -1 or 0 mentalities, giving your goalkeeper penalties on his skills to defend shots. But if you say this is common to many teams it may not be the case.
Let’s keep this discussion going in order to improve the match engine ;)
Gabriel, any reply to me previous post?
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Regarding to some previews posts about the match engine like said in the main post. To many games are random, losing is part of the game, but the stats should be fixed to it. Having 30 shots vs 2 and lose 1-0 with an average player rating of 8.5 is just weird. And when it happens once or twice a season ok….that’s normal..also in real life. But losing 10 of those will get people frustrated.
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Again and again we get screwed over by CPU teams who have stats of like only 8 shots and score 4x vs 27 shots and 1 goal? My team isn’t the best, but what the BEEP is going on? And i’m not even the one who gets the hardest hits when i look at other matches in France. Though, i can’t say anything about other countries.
CPU teams are enjoying a killer season this year :D
there goes the predictions for me winning the cup, 2 nice suckouts vs a cpu team…gg match engine!
We have this page accessible from the login page. It lists the enhancements we consider high priority at the moment. Regarding date estimation, it’s really had for us to give them. We never know exaclty how much time we’ll have available for RubySoccer development. I wish I had 8 hours daily from Monday to Friday just to work on the game :)
Hello game masters!
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Maybe it’s an idea to put up a sticky in the admin forum where u make like a to do list of improvements and like a astimated date of release? I would like to know what’s coming and a time or place :)
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Nicky
Fixed!
Thanks for reporting Julkan, I’ll take a look.
Cheers!
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Patrizi Parise
Position: G
Keeping: 86 !!
Tackle: 36
Passing: 81
Shooting: 40
Speed: 100 !!!
Dribble: 93
Control: 89
Header: 86
Aggressiveness: 99
transfer price: $45,029,869
Goalkeeper Ability: 86×0.6 + 100×0.4 = 91.6
Compare goalkeeping skills regarding keeping and speed… You’ll realize that he’s better than most keepers on sale!
Hard to say….. but all my respect to those ones i did not choose. it will be fun to recheck when cups are over and we can see half of the season results.
Best Luck to you all, let’s the good managers roll !!
England:
League : Manchester City
Cup: West Ham
France
League :Brest
Cup:ac ajacio
Germany
League :Bayern munich
Cup:Hertha BSC Berlin
Italy
League :Napoli
Cup:Napoli
Netherlands
League :NAC
Cup:Roosendaal
Portugal
League :Benfica
Cup: penafiel
Spain
League : Betis
Cup: Espanol
Argentina
League :Boca Juniors
Cup:Boca Juniors
Brazil
League :Flamento
Cup: Gama
Paraguay
League :Fernando de la Mora
Cup:Libertad
Uruguay
League :Cerro Largo
Cup: Danubio
haha gabriel, i can’t win the cup :) your list is almost perfect but in france Brest will take an other double
Hi!,
In the international competitions in the medium ticker, appears the table “Maximos Goleadores” but we did not play any matches and there is something strange in links of the players and the teams of each player because by clicking on them, they redirect to the main page of the dimension.
I´ve been investigating and the table is the same of the 12th season of the fast ticker dimension (we are currently in the 12th season of the medium ticker)… it seems that something is been messed.
Regards.
England:
League : Scunthorpe United
Cup: Blackpool
France
League: Brest
Cup: AC Ajaccio
Germany
League: Hertha BSC Berlin
Cup: Bayern Munchen
Italy
League: Napoli
Cup: Genoa
Netherlands
League: Roosendaal
Cup: Roosendaal
Portugal
League: Benfica
Cup: Penafiel
Spain
League: Recreativo Huelva
Cup: Getafe
Argentina
League: Boca Juniors
Cup: Boca Juniors
Brazil
League: Flamengo
Cup: Paraná
Paraguay
League: Libertad
Cup: Libertad
Uruguay
League: Danubio
Cup: Cerro Largo
Simone Salviato
Age: 18
Attributes
Position: G
Keeping: 82
Speed: 72
Dribble: 72
Control: 74
Header: 72
Aggressiveness: 24
Stamina: 100
minimum wage: 50%
period: 36 – 144 turns
minimum coaching level: 8
maximum official matches missed: 3
We have that planned already, that’s a good idea :)
Would it be a good idea to have an option in substitutions to replace player after x amount of time if player rating below x? Obviously taking off a player if he isnt performing well, maybe this could be implemented gabrielle after you have sorted out the player ratings?
cheers
chris
Hi all, this is a little survey about next season predictions, who will you think that will win league and cup in the different countries?
Here are my predictions.
Best regards
England:
League :Scunthorpe United
Cup:Blackpool
France
League :Paris-SG
Cup:Monaco
Germany
League :Hertha BSC Berlin
Cup:Hertha BSC Berlin
Italy
League :Napoli
Cup:Napoli
Netherlands
League :Feyenoord
Cup:Roosendaal
Portugal
League :Benfica
Cup:U. Leiria
Spain
League :Recreativo Huelva
Cup:Getafe
Argentina
League :Boca Juniors
Cup:Boca Juniors
Brazil
League :Gama
Cup:América-RN
Paraguay
League :Fernando de la Mora
Cup:Libertad
Uruguay
League :Danubio
Cup:Cerro Largo
The first 2 league rounds tend to have a good attendance, after that the league position is taken in consideration. For the national cups, the first rounds tend to have poor attendance, it gets better as you approach the final.
I think he meens me Nicky :)……It’s not in the “rat pack” best intrest to help out teams other then french ones :D.
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You did amaze me for playing 4-3-3 in your return game vs me in CL. I didn’t quite understand that. You knew based on your home possesion of 51% that you had to do something for the away game otherwise you would be outplayed, but you suprised me some what with your 4-3-3. I didn’t think that was tthe right choice if somehow you wanted to increase your possesion and get some more control on the game.
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But Philipp, I have 1 point to make. I think it was said on “prediction topic” aswell by DaMaGo. Your squad is pure awesomeness, but you are not pressured to make many tactical changes in germany. With your squad you can have everyone on play possition and still win! Doesn’t really matter what you do tactically. In other countries there is more competition. Managers have to adapt more in order to do well. This makes them learn more about the game and tactics. What you need to do is get some better managers to germany in order to increase the avarage level of teams :P
(of the french team managers) <—- thx for the compliment, i guess? ;)
Real Madrid vs Ejido att:39,000 full for 2nd div game
Real vs Celta Vigo (1st Div team) Att: 14,000? for Copa Del Rey
unrealistic, fan should be more attracted for a game against a far superior team no???
Or maybe they knew we would lose the game :0( comon!!