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@Sly
The market has slowed down for two reasons:
1. The age of superstars, Tigers apart, is over. Players, even good ones, are more similar to each other, hence their impact from one team to another has lessened considerably. As a result, only those few standouts have a proper market.
2. Managers are relying more and more on youth, both from academy and from the market, transferred or freed. This, IMO, is a good development.
You know very well how much I love a dynamic market, but I would prefer not to make it more dynamic by creating a phony youth system.
@Vaughn
Yes it takes sometime to build a team, but once you get the foundation going, then you can count on your team to always be competitive. Also, proper managers should enjoy such a challenge of building a team from scratch. For new managers, it is quite a challenge where they also learn the game as it should be.
Not to brag here, but it’s no coincidence that both me and Filipe support the current youth setup. We are both quite traveled managers, with a long resume of success (taking into consideration the relativity of the term here) wherever we have been.
Filipe: Porto, Vitoria Guiamares, Manchester United
Me: Valencieness, Liverpool, Cardiff City.
All these teams (Cardiff is still in the making) have had a lot of success, being build almost from scratch, and dominating European football at their peaks. We are a solid proof, over and over again, that with a proper strategy, a lot can be done starting from scratch.
The problem is not in the youth setup, but in the knowledge base + personal skills of every manager out there. The whole experience and outcome is a mix of grooming youth and smart market strategy.
-there are still managers who quite don’t understand how youth grow. Just recently, an old manager here told me that youth complete their growth at only 400 experience growth points. It’s clear this manager has based his all strategy on wrong foundations.
-most managers don’t know how to spend. One manager in the last two seasons has sold two very promising prospects for a total of 85 million and has bought a fully grown mid of average skills for 30 million. So, the said manager has made a profit of 55 million, however, he has lost two future starters and has added a player of no impact in his first team and no return value in the market. This is a recipe for disaster, if you ask me. And it’s a recipe 90% of managers use. It’s also the main reason why the remaining 10% or even less are always the ones dominating all competitions.
Of course, making money is important. But the only profit you make in this game is the added value to the team you put on the pitch, not the balance in your fake account. :D
Changes or no changes, I think that a detailed guide should be created to help young and old managers to get their game in order. As it is, most managers here are simply confused of what the heck they are doing.
Never! A Dutch team or no team.
^^ says a manager that has nothing of achievements in a proper league, haha u have to play in unpopulated leagues. i think before you should talk you should at least lead a team to a championship that has a full human managed league. shame you dont have such skill lol come to england manage see how shit you do
I think people using ‘fuck off’ etc. often in the forums should be punished in the game by having worse income, worse youth players etc.
O wait, it’s already been done! :P
lol
Can we please cease this kind of behavior in the forums? I’m kind of tired of it, and I am sure Gabriel is too. Let’s speak to others in the same way we hope they speak to us, unless you have psychiatric problems (in that case, just use the common sense we are sure everybody is aware of).
No patience required, problem resolved!
Yes, we know about it and what to do to fix it but I’m at work and Danilo is at the train, not much we can do right now but ask for your patience :-)
Cheers.
voughn fuck off alright thanks :) i know how they improve ive played this game longer than you so stfu
they dont improve like they should in my team, ive managed other teams and no problem, sunderland however has this issue.
Don’t u think the problem doesn’t lie in the game but with you? They do improve if you do it right, maybe read up on how to improve players?
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_info/174226 24 year old 96 shooting striker for sale, i expect my asking price or close to it
finally possitive change to come soon <3
nothing has changed from then and now, i was complaining about it then, and im still complaining about it now the financial income aspect is stupid why is it in 1 season a player i sold at age 21 is now +50 in abilities and totally solid, when they are on my team they dont do fuck all improvement. they get playing time, they have a 10 coach ect. nothing happends untill they leave the club so it goes to show u this game is bullshit and the “rules” arnt what everyone says they are. the game is biased
do it :)
You should really check the teamsheet before you accuse anyone of cheating, its not like you got beat 21-0 by his reserves
yes but that was season 23, that’s 22 seasons ago. I’m sure you don’t remember your merchandise from back then, but I’m 100% sure it was more then you are getting now.
Key to succes in this game, is having a wide selection of players, so that 1 injury or 2 or even 5…won’t hurt your performance. When CL would start for me, I would play 2 entirely different teams. This way I would always have 100 stamina. So in theory, I could handle 6 injuries and 4 red cards at once (since i only always have 1 goalkeeper)….and I would still be able to field a decent team.
So instead of selling those players who didn’t turn out to be superstars, I keep them in order to uphold stamina, and be able to adapt when I get a red card or 2……
You got to realise…. it’s not that easy to perform well in ruby :). Takes time and effort. If you don’t have that, that’s ok, but that meens your performance will be hurt by it.
Hope this helps you a bit.
Regards,
Sylvain
His reserve/youth team played against you, either by accident or to develop the young players faster. There’s nothing illegal about that.
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/team_players/166 more players of quality listed, youth, veterans, if you want a player unlisted let me know and for what respectable offer and you can have him
highest spot ive ever been in premier league is champion and last season was 2nd for 3/4 of the season then droped to 4th-5th due to injury and red cards
Does anyone know the coach of Botafogo?
I won a game by 21 × 0, very strange for me it is fake.
Alvaro
@Filipe: There is more to it with the youth system. Indirectly, changing the youth improvement system will hopefully have a positive effect on the transfer market. I think you understand why.
You can have them full grown at young age yeah, but then it’s impossible to win anything (like a league, cl/el and cup). In RL i almost never see someone younger then 20 in the field, only when they are execptional like Snider, Messi and Rooney in his younger years.
Filipe, i don’t agree with you saying that there’s no managing in letting players play only in friendly games. If we refer to RL then a club has a fully backstage youth acedemy to train players till they are rdy for the main team. Normally they don’t come in the pictures till they are 19/20 and then they are of a lvl that i mentioned in the frist paragraph.
Also in the aspect of that we need alot more managers, if a new managers joins a lower team for the first time he can get free players of 17/18, then he needs to wait till they are 23/24 to have them fully improved. That is 6 seasons aka almost 6 months!!!! Do you rly think a new manager is waiting for that? Ofc it’s the hardest way to restore a team and build up from scratch, but still….almost 6 months is TO MUCH for an online game.
I am with Dimitri and Felipe. The youth system is just fine, and just like in RL, youth players come of age around 22-23.
Also I don’t see much reason to complain, considering that fully grown players start decreasing only at 31 and they are still at their peaks at around 33-34 yo, meaning that a full grown player is expected to have a career span of at least 10 seasons.
Alessandro is using youth guys in the league.
He is upgrade the youth team!
I think the time players take to improve it’s ok… You can have a player fully grown with 22 if you use him in oficial matches, you’ll probably lose some matches but it is supose to be that way… People want to improve players just using them in friendly matches, there’s no managing in that and this is a manage game…
So Montanha, do you have an evil eye, or is there another reason Tigre is performing so badly?
I actually think the system is ok as it is… and I conctracted more youth players than anyone else in the game ;)
I think that team went Bankrupt. You can see this, because the 1st thing the cpu did after the manager got fired is put coaching to level 0.
Goodluck fixing this team with 0 money. Now in france this wouldn’t be a problem? The #1 ranking spot will give you tons of good youth. Pfff…..who needs money when they can just train there own player! Nothing more fun then that! Check out Le Havre or Angers. Both teams have about 10 french players who are 22 or younger. Some future potential stars are among them. This will give you a nice jump start on good overall players, without you having to do any scouting or what so ever!
Come enjoy the awesomeness of a #1 ranking country and feel the joy of training your OWN superstars just like Tigre :)
Funny to see this topic. I’ve instructed friends and others for years now that it’s a waste of money. It really is just very simple math :).
I did not know about the team ranking part though. Tobad, since I am not ranked #1 anymore like in the “old day’s”.
@Davison: Sorry to burst your bubble, but when did you win all season long? The highest spot you ever got in the premiere league was #4. You must understand, there are plenty of teams in the entire game who performed much better i.e. the teams who fisnished 1,2 and 3…….
Also going up in ranking takes years and years of cotinued succes. When I was ranked top 5 I had like 5-6 titles behind my name, lots of CL quaters/semi’s and 2 finals. It just takes time, since you need to do better then all the other teams to move up. There are teams out there that just keep evolving over time and always stay competative. You are now reforming you team yet again right? Doing it very drastically will make you lose your hard earned ranking points. I would advise you to do it more slowly. That way you can stay competative for longer periods of time and slowly move up in ranking, and also getting increased merchendising.
Hope this information helps!
Regards,
Sly
Now it is 24/25 y.o. right? Let’s try and get it done to 21/23?