I already have talked with Gabriel some seasons ago. I just want to share a little math:

Lets do it with 100, 500 and 1000 chairs:

Chairs – Cost
100: $0.5M
500: $2.4M
1000: $4.55M

Cost per new chair
100: $5k
500: $4.8k
1000: $4.55k

My team had played 28 official games in home last season. Lets suppose full house all games, so:
How long it will take to pay my investment?

100 chairs → need 500 home games, so: 500/28 = almost 18 seasons
500 chairs = 17 seasons
1000 chairs = 16 seasons

Is it worth? What is your opinion?

Note: 16 seasons = 864 turns = 384 days in FT (more than 1 year!) Just to have your $4.55M back.

After reading this i wont be upgrading my stadium lol, its not worth it by those stats.

For me it’s 1000: $5.46 million

What the freak is the point of upgrade. Unless you have more money that you will ever need, it’s a waste.

Stadium capacity is also supposed to limit the amount you receive from sponsors. I will double check that to make sure it is working as intended.

Can you explain about Stadium capacity and sponsors?

The stadium capacity was supposed to limit the sponsorship value somehow. Not sure what the exact formula is, but it would be something like:

10,000 seats → 100,000 sponsorship maximum
15,500 seats → 155,000 sponsorship maximum
…

and so on.

If you have a 16,000 seat stadium, by your formula you would have a $160,000 sponsorship maximum. How would you attain that maximum sponsorship?

I haven’t confirmed if the formula is exactly that, so don’t consider the values above as the truth. But answering your question, the maximum can be obtained by having good performance. More specifically, sponsorship value is directly related to you team’s score in the teams ranking.

Just double checked the formula, it uses a base value and a random factor. This base value is based on your team performance, in other words, the team score in the teams ranking. If your team base value is greater than your stadium capacity times 10, then your stadium capacity times 10 is used as your base value. So I was almost right :)

i get fuck all from sponsors

Like Gabriel said: “This base value is based on your team performance, in other words, the team score in the teams ranking.” Since your team is 85 in ranking you get lower sponsor money. So it is working as intended.

thats bullshit because when im winning like all last season i recieve f all for income so piss off

It’s not about winning some matches in 1 season, the team rating is more then that. And there is no need to start shouting tbh.

yeh there is when finding out that my “investment” was a waste of money so basicly stadium expansion is waste of time

So, allowing for maximum sponsorship, which is an extra 10 pounds per week per seat added, then you get your money back in a maximum of 8 years.

Funny to see this topic. I’ve instructed friends and others for years now that it’s a waste of money. It really is just very simple math :).

I did not know about the team ranking part though. Tobad, since I am not ranked #1 anymore like in the “old day’s”.

@Davison: Sorry to burst your bubble, but when did you win all season long? The highest spot you ever got in the premiere league was #4. You must understand, there are plenty of teams in the entire game who performed much better i.e. the teams who fisnished 1,2 and 3…….

Also going up in ranking takes years and years of cotinued succes. When I was ranked top 5 I had like 5-6 titles behind my name, lots of CL quaters/semi’s and 2 finals. It just takes time, since you need to do better then all the other teams to move up. There are teams out there that just keep evolving over time and always stay competative. You are now reforming you team yet again right? Doing it very drastically will make you lose your hard earned ranking points. I would advise you to do it more slowly. That way you can stay competative for longer periods of time and slowly move up in ranking, and also getting increased merchendising.

Hope this information helps!


Regards,
Sly

highest spot ive ever been in premier league is champion and last season was 2nd for 3/4 of the season then droped to 4th-5th due to injury and red cards

yes but that was season 23, that’s 22 seasons ago. I’m sure you don’t remember your merchandise from back then, but I’m 100% sure it was more then you are getting now.

Key to succes in this game, is having a wide selection of players, so that 1 injury or 2 or even 5…won’t hurt your performance. When CL would start for me, I would play 2 entirely different teams. This way I would always have 100 stamina. So in theory, I could handle 6 injuries and 4 red cards at once (since i only always have 1 goalkeeper)….and I would still be able to field a decent team.

So instead of selling those players who didn’t turn out to be superstars, I keep them in order to uphold stamina, and be able to adapt when I get a red card or 2……

You got to realise…. it’s not that easy to perform well in ruby :). Takes time and effort. If you don’t have that, that’s ok, but that meens your performance will be hurt by it.

Hope this helps you a bit.

Regards,
Sylvain

nothing has changed from then and now, i was complaining about it then, and im still complaining about it now the financial income aspect is stupid why is it in 1 season a player i sold at age 21 is now +50 in abilities and totally solid, when they are on my team they dont do fuck all improvement. they get playing time, they have a 10 coach ect. nothing happends untill they leave the club so it goes to show u this game is bullshit and the “rules” arnt what everyone says they are. the game is biased

Don’t u think the problem doesn’t lie in the game but with you? They do improve if you do it right, maybe read up on how to improve players?

voughn fuck off alright thanks :) i know how they improve ive played this game longer than you so stfu
they dont improve like they should in my team, ive managed other teams and no problem, sunderland however has this issue.

Can we please cease this kind of behavior in the forums? I’m kind of tired of it, and I am sure Gabriel is too. Let’s speak to others in the same way we hope they speak to us, unless you have psychiatric problems (in that case, just use the common sense we are sure everybody is aware of).

lol

I think people using ‘fuck off’ etc. often in the forums should be punished in the game by having worse income, worse youth players etc.

O wait, it’s already been done! :P

^^ says a manager that has nothing of achievements in a proper league, haha u have to play in unpopulated leagues. i think before you should talk you should at least lead a team to a championship that has a full human managed league. shame you dont have such skill lol come to england manage see how shit you do

Never! A Dutch team or no team.

We only try to help you Davison. It doesn’t rly matter who is longer in the game, since the game can change in the meanwhile. Still i believe that Sunderland can’t be the only one with not having youth grown.

And if you use that kind of language, you can’t rly expect to get any future help with any problems from some managers.

didnt ask for your help did i ? but you chose to be condescending me> you remember that now jog on