Not the right topic to ask this, but I’ll answer anyway. The players that are fully fit (100 stamina and no injury) will gain experience on non-match days as if they had played a friendly. Nothing else changes, meaning the amount of experience they need to improve depends on your coaching level.
Added to our list of features for May.
An additional clarification with regards to the transfer budget during the season. There is a limit to how big it can be in relation to the total money balance, if you start to lose money for instance you may see the transfer budget reduced, even if you don’t buy any players. This limit is higher than what you would get with a level 10 investment on transfer budget, so you still have room to increasing the budget above the original value by selling players, even if you raise the investment level to 10 on season start. This represents an additional step by the board to protect the club finances.
Nice discussion folks. I’ve just done the same analysis with my club and after disregarding players bought and sold my profit was $362k. If I take into account players bought and sold the profit jumps to $4.7M.
Overall FastTicker’s total money jumped from $6.6B to $12.5B, which is definitely quite a lot and something to be looked at in the near future. Apparently that money is not being concentrated in the hands of a few teams, as the most rich teams have around $30M and the poorest around $4-$5M. What seems to be happening is that teams with high salaries are either losing a bit of money or making very little while good performing teams with low salaries are getting richer.
You could argue either way about having a fair money distribution between teams, so let’s not go there yet. I tend to agree that salaries should be lowered a bit overall, but not before we have either a new way to spend money or morale implemented and the squad limit removed or increased. Then it will be up to the manager to balance the money spent on salaries, squad size, other expenses, etc.
@Paulo: reason to buy players is to kick everyone’s arses, even if I have to lose a bit of money for some time ;-)
Alright, switched the transfer budget again to something in between the values for the current season and the previous adjustments I did for which we posted the numbers. My budget estimate on FT is now 6.8M at level 8 and on MT it is 5.5M at level 4. I’ve got a bit more money on both now as I’ve sold some players, otherwise the difference from my previous post would be a bit bigger.
That amount is because I changed it already so we could see the new estimates ;-)
Anyone else care to share? I’ll share mine:
13M – budget estimate of 7.9M at level 8
16M – budget estimate of 5.8M at level 4
Yeah…it does sounds like too much…maybe I’ll try something in between.
The system itself is still the same regarding points, but now players earn points from “training”. They still earn the usual 1 point from friendlies, but I’ll probably change that. I’ll do some more adjustments as well to make sure they don’t over improve just from training, things like considering match day a no training day for instance.
What is your opinion about the club money return so far?
26% I like it the way it is.
23% No Answer
21% I prefer the game the way it was before.
13% I like it but we should have no transfer budget.
13% I like it but we should have a higher transfer budget.
4% I like it but we should not have wage limit.
Let’s crunch some numbers. If we group the “I like it” answers we have 56% of the managers saying they like the return of the club money against 21% who prefer the way it was before and 23% of undecided, don’t know yet, either way is fine. It saddens me to see the high number of people who didn’t like it, but at the same time we have more than twice that number that liked it, which shows me we are on the right track again and with a few more tweaks we can make those 21% happier.
Now, within the 56% happy ones, a little bit more than half would like to see some improvements, mainly with regards to the transfer budget. I could probably see it coming and I’ve said multiple times the numbers used were experimental, so I’m more than happy to experiment a bit more and increase it, for the next season if possible. Please keep your feedback coming, there is always room for improvements!
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The automatic scheduling of friendlies on season start option has been disabled. Players will now improve even without playing, to simulate improvements from training. In summary a non injured player with stamina 100 will improve during a turn as if he had played a friendly on that turn.
Having friendlies during the whole season was not realistic at all, but a necessity due to the way player improvement worked so far. Hopefully now managers can focus on official matches and play friendlies only when they feel like it to play against a friend or to test some specific tactics.
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Last 3 ticks have run ok and the times displayed until next tick are behaving correctly. All reported issues seem to be fixed now. Thanks everyone for pointing out the errors, enjoy!
League form table fixed!
Most issues caused by the last update have been resolved. Tick times have moved a bit and we are still resolving related issues, so the time displayed until the next tick may not be accurate 100% of the time and ticks may occasionally run out of schedule while we resolve this. Thanks for your patience ;-)
Thanks Dimitri, we’ll look into it. Davison, what are you scared of? :-D
I’ve just fixed this. Please let us know if you still see anything weird.
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No Armageddon, just the latest big pack of technology upgrade that was introduced a few hours ago :-)
Thanks for reporting the issues guys. The tick has been fixed and we’ll look into the other two, mail content being the top priority. The other know issue is the player order in the match report, we’ll look into that as well.
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It should be all good now, even though the schedule has been shifted by 4 hours.
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Thanks for reporting. It seems players are being sorted by position alphabetically (A, D, G, M) instead of logically (G, D, M, A).
I haven’t looked at your tactics yet but I would say it is very important to have a defender on DC0, the most central position. I know it ruins a classic 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 formation, but this is something we need to improve in the match engine to allow such classic formations to work better.
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Working on some important software upgrades before we can move forward in terms of features. Lots of new things planned but most importantly we are trying to bring some structure and organization to the way we introduce new things in RubySoccer. Stay tuned!
What is/would be your preferred way to interact with the game developers and the RubySoccer community?
41% Game Forum
24% In-game Messages
16% Chat (to be developed)
10% Facebook
7% No Answer
1% Twitter
Interesting, looks like people prefer to stay in the website when interacting and don’t really bother about getting updates from external sources such as Facebook and Twitter. That’s actually good news as we can stay here longer and focus in the forum for announcements and discussions while using Facebook for less important stuff or as a second source of news.
Ah, but keeping inflation in check will not be achieved by limiting the transfer price. People can still have hundreds of millions and pay 4 millions for a good player, if that’s the limit for instance. We’ll have to worry about inflation as a separate issue, that’s for sure. We need a way for managers to spend extra money, when they have it.
What I don’t understand is why allowing high transfer prices bothers you so much Davison if nobody will pay those prices. Maybe in a few seasons some teams will have that much money and will be willing to spend it on outstanding players, so why put a limit now and remove it or increase it later? The estimated value is just a number to give people a rough idea and a baseline for clubs without managers.
I see you’re currently selling a couple players but they’re not great. I mean, one has awesome secondary skills, which could be attractive, but he’s already 31. The other one is a promising young player, but not everyone is looking for that.
I suppose to begin with it will be only easier to sell great players, but of course you will want to keep them most of the time. Some smaller teams may be interested on average players, especially AI managed teams, but it will depend on what they can afford at the moment. Maybe others can give you better advice as I’m not a great seller myself :-P
The logic behind the money given to teams initially was random but constrained to the fact that it should leave the team in a regular economy situation. I’ve seen rich teams that are struggling to make money and small teams that are getting lots of money, so I’m not overly concerned. Overall the money is increasing in the game and soon the initial money loaded won’t matter anymore.
Davison, you don’t get it. Face this as a reset on game economy. It was shitty before and we are fixing it by bringing back the money, which is what everyone (including you) wanted. Clubs will not have a lot of money to start with, but with good management (and any necessary adjustments from us) they should improve and be able to afford more players.
Forget about what you had in the past seasons, that was a different economy model that we tested and didn’t work out. At least now I can see some meaningful transfers going on that require more thought into them because money is a finite resource once again. Player values are just estimates, people are free to bid as much as they want (or can afford) on players.
Also, player values were reduced to reflect the new reality, if that proves not to be enough we can always adjust them. If money increases in the game over time I’m sure people will start selling players for higher values.
level 10 = 4m transfer budget with the amount of money your team currently has. Remember the transfer budget value is now attached to your money balance, it’s not a separate value you have to spend on players, any players you buy will deduct money from your money balance AND from the transfer budget. Similarly, selling players will add money to the club balance AND to the transfer budget, the difference being that only a % of the sale goes to the budget (determined by the corresponding investment level).
That said, the budget left is not carried over because there is nothing to carry over, it will be re-calculated based on your money balance and the level chosen. Does that answer your question?
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Olá Rodrigo,
Não tem problema escrever em português, só peço que crie um novo tópico colocando [pt] na frente do título, como fiz, pra não haver confusão. Quanto ao que aconteceu com seu time preciso investigar, o budget não deveria ficar negativo. Isso implica apenas que vc não poderá comprar jogadores até a definição do próximo budget na próxima temporada. O budget é apenas uma restrição imposta pelo clube para que o treinador não gaste mais dinheiro do que devia em compras de jogadores.
Abraço
Postado por Rodrigo Pinho:
Olá Gabriel, eu pouco entro no fórum e fiquei em dúvida. Não fiz nada de extraordinário e meu time apresenta um índice negativo que me deixou com a pulga atrás da orelha.
Seu Desempenho: 100%
Dinheiro: $13,379,016 (regular)
Transfer Budget: $-1,505,637
Wage Limit: $1,844,330
Current Wage Total: $926,136
Esse índice negativo está correto?
No que isso implica?
O que fazer para acertar as finanças?
(desculpe por escrever em português, mas é a língua que consigo me expressar)
Saudações
That means stadium plays an important role on your income now, so during investments level selection you should try to get a decent size without aiming too high so that you don’t have to pay too much for maintenance without using the full capacity. The fact that you get less money when you have a not so good squad mimics the real life challenge of turning a small/medium club into a big one. Sometimes you may have to sell a star player to get more money.
If with time we realize such challenge is impossible we’ll make the necessary adjustments ;-)