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Wouldn’t make any difference if they took out some zeros. Even if i would have 10 dollars in my bank and the transfer market is empty, the 10 dollars will be worthless to.
Right, but I’d like to tackle the problem from a different perspective, it really is about game mechanics rather than good or bad.
1.New things were introduced.
2. They did solve some problems, and created some other issues.
3. Issues should be solved, if everyone (or game designers/owners) really think this is an issue.
- some explanation to my logic here. Since we are dealing with money, 1Bn (in reality at least) is a very big deal of money. The game currency has become worth peanuts, so we could really change to call it peanuts/points/coints/gems/whatever instead of euro/dollars. I thought simulation games were meant to simulate reality as much as possible. From that perspective the game has a HUGE flaw. 1Bn of game currency in ANY football management game is a HUGE amount of money and you can do a lot of things with such a sum. THIS is the problem really and in my opinion needs to be addressed.
And again, it’s not really that important how it was before and how it is now. New problems exist – we need to find out the best possible solution to make it “right”, no?
Again it is about the game and not about my specific situation, I am not complaining, trying to make you see the problem.
/BK
Why won’t you sell your best players? Because u need them and they won’t leave out themselve. This has been the point before the new system and still is. The only thing different really is that everyone can have money at the beginning of the season which wasn’t the case before. But does this change the transfermarket? No.
Why is it pointless?
We are discussing whether there are flaws or not after the recent investment-area changes. And how it can be solved. Putting suggestions on the suggestions forum would be the next step for those who would like to that.
What is most pointless is probably your comment, but that is my opinion (and now even mine :) ).
That is always the deal around here, as there are so many “experts” on everything, everyone know exactly how a great game should work like, perhaps that is the downside and one of the reasons the game is in this state.
/BK
This is a pointless conversation. Absolutely pointless. We all know the flaws, they are obviously thinking about making the game better. Adding in more board areas etc will all happen at some point . Since I’ve played ruby soccer I’ve known it’s far from the finished article, if you don’t like it then your not forced to help out and play it. If your like me and many others and see the potential then just do what developers ask and put it in the suggestions forum.
ok, thank you! so by now, the only penalty you have if a player is set off, is that you can´t use it in the next game. i know that it´s not easy but obviously it should change.
Well, the difference can be seen in practice if you watch the match replay, you have one less player in the field meaning it should (in theory) be easier for the team with more players to find holes in the field. I believe the problem lies in the fact that the match engine is not smart enough to take advantage of such holes.
I believe I have fixed the bug and removed all the substitution rules that existed as a result of the bug. Thanks for reporting, Dirk!
Cheers
There’s a bug with the replacements in the international team games. Mark Welch replaces Brodie every match although welch isn’t selected anymore. It’s the fact against Switzerland and again against Turkey. Gabriel, can you take a look.
“Yo guys are the ones that wanted this sistem, it can’t work with money being transferred to next season. If that would happen in a few seasons we would all have 1 Bill in the bank and no player could be sold.
You do realize I said “some of the money left”? So you still lose money (budget) at the end of the season, but instead of 100%, it’s 60% (or another percentage), and you keep 40%.
can anyone explain me how a red card affects the performance of the team during the game? because every time i see some one sent off during a game, i don´t see difference at all in the team action. Example(just one cause there are lots of them): last game against Braga, he had 2 players sent off (one of them at 5 min in the 1st time). Result: i lost 2-0 with these statistics:
2 × 04-3-3 formação 4-3-3
50% posse 50%
22 remates 10
17 remates no alvo 7
86% passes acertados 95%
62% desarmes eficazes 41%
5 cantos 0
6 foras-de-jogo 3
10 faltas 11
I don´t see a big quality difference between the 2 teams, and a proof is that we are only 2 points away in the league. Like i said, it´s not the 1st time (neither the 2nd) i saw that a players beeing sent off makes no difference at all.
Dimitri, I thing going back to keep the money is even worse solution to this. It would welcome the cheating even more with the current transfer amounts and price tags.
Filipe, the solution with investments is a good one. It does solve what it was designed to do, it also introduced other problems that need to be solved. That cycle is very normal in the field of software development. Surely your solution to the problem is not as you suggest “do not sell players knowing you won’t be able to spend the money”?!
Is it only me who is bothered by this or you stopped caring long time ago?
And also, I will not pay 1Bn for one player, even if I had 100Bn, because I value players in different way than others I guess, I’d rather let the money be gone at the end of season. Or perhaps just buy someones player at the very end of the season to make them worry about it, haven’t really decided yet.. :)
/BK
Yo guys are the ones that wanted this sistem, it can’t work with money being transferred to next season. If that would happen in a few seasons we would all have 1 Bill in the bank and no player could be sold.
The market starts to have some nicier players now, and I believe when the Investments become more atractful there will be more reasons to need money, right now the only motivation is if you want to buy a player for some crazy offer. If you’re not planning on doing that Berhan than you shoulnt gattered so much money, the game cant predict every decision a manager takes, it was your choice to sell those players knowing you woudn’t have were to spend the money.
I mentioned before that some of the money left (or budget actually) should be transferred to the next season. If I remember correctly the developers agreed, so it’s probably a question of time and finding the right balance.
Vaughn, I am aware and perhaps it’s a bit of an issue thinking 1Bn is a lot of money (considering the older valuation) and I might get 5 extra points that will do absolutely nothing for my club. Then the price is a bit hefty in my opinion.
Maybe this needs a re-thinking.
/BK
The money you have left is transfered to board points next season, so i won’t go to waste.
Revised Jansen price, and listed two more strikers, probably wont sell them all but this gives you more choice.
Again I am not at all surprised the same suspects give their voice to offer expertise, which is still impossible to read here..
You are missing (as always) the point.
I do not care if I can find a player or not to invest the 1Bn+ I have in the club transfer budget at the moment.
I am pointing towards a flaw in the game. Surely you can see the problem I am talking about?
Buying / selling player is possible. I have nothing to object to that.
The problem really is the game not offering enough functionality to invest that money you get in transfer during the season as the money is gone at the end of the season. I am pointing a flaw and fact that is a direct result of the latest (Investment) changes. If I did not care about the game I would not offer this free advice. Take it as you like.
And Rui, funny you actually did look for my comments and quoted it or maybe you had written them in your diary, whichever the case it proves that you like my ideas!! ;)
/BK
“What are you talking about, you can sell/buy players, maybe not the ones you want for the money you have/can offer but that has been the reality of all games of this type”.
this is a quote from someone, which is a possible answer to this thread’s subject. here’s the one million dollar question: which manager did tell us the sentence above?
a little help… it was the same manager who told, 3 months ago: “If I can not buy one more player ever again in this game, I would still enjoy the game”.
Doesn’t matter the background.
Now being more important is quite logical as there are not many good players being sold around. Few good guys do that and once you done deal with them you can not do another before next season. Another reason this being more important now is because the money is gone at the end of season, while earlier it’s shame you had to wait but at least you could save the money for future deals.
Now selling/buying has lost is meaning. The season investment solutions was good for much cheating prevention but introduced other issues, THAT need to be addressed, and that is what I am doing.
If you have done any software development you then would know that some solution introduce other side effects that need to be fixed as well. The one transfer/season/manager rule has now a bit different meaning after the new investments implementation. Surely I can not be the only one to see this?
/BK
How come you bring this up now btw? This rule has been in place for about 40+ seasons….
Really, the rule is to prevent cheating, I get that but it prevents playing.
Think about it and let it sink, it has a meaning.
/BK
Yeah, that rule should remain, it has some disadvantages but the help it brings is more important.
About the money, at the moment I think the best player in the market is Antonio Prados from Sunderland, 1Bill is a bit too much, but I would pay 700M if I had the money, very nice lad, the best in Sunderland for many years :D
No, those are are in place for cheating reasons. Filipe can confirm this rule helped to prevent something quite recently with that Ceb Cop / Romain coppens dude…
Didnt you recently make a post saying “Contrary to others strategy I sell great players. Just to challenge myself to find equal replacement”. Now no offence, but if there were many options out there, it wouldn’t be a challange now would it? :)
can’t trade with same manager more than 1 player / season, perfect example of rules needed revision.
/BK
One of Middlesbrough young keepers, if you plan to improve and sell players seems to me a good option…
Any ideas?
/BK
Droped prices of the keepers, now more and more the best promising keepers you will find in the market.
Also listed Carbonell, nice DM with skills that can play any position in the midfield.
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/team_players/176
Cheers
I know by now no one, including the Developers, cares for what Davison says.
Even so here it goes: Davison, you should focus your attention in playing the game, thats what we are here to do, not complaining about everything they build for us in their own free time. I keep checking your team and each time it seems to get worse, shouldn’t you be taking care of it instead of this? How can you know the game is that bad if it seems to me you dont play it that much?
Go play the game, and take care!
……2 months