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If you suspect someone is cheating you should point it to the developers só they can determine if it is relly the case. Now, saying someone can only win things doing fishy stuff seems.to me youre getting close to Davison trying to justify your insucsses with everyone else cheating.
You Said we all can print the same input to the game, true. Some of us do it right, some dont. If we had no transfers the most sucssesful managers would Be the same. They are the ones that understand better how players improve, wich players to keep. Wich to let go, and the most imortant factor you forgot, wich tactics work better in any situation.
In the game Settings below Job Search, there’s an option:
“Receive real e-mail for this dimension?” – Just unmark this option dude
yes, reset and stop all transfers . :)
/BK
hahah
I’ve expressed my view on inflation already in another topic, and I dont think a reset would make it better, I dont agree we have an exessive number of superstars either, I dont see a super player since the days of the “Legendary Tigre”, changes were made then and I think the way it is is reasonable…
Resetting Medium would be sweet! Or just add a superticker, update every hour or 2 hours :)
sweet! thanks! will keep you updated if it works ;)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iu6s5aematt3kag/formation.PNG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fa4213wijv9e319/tactics.PNG
It’s not a secret, I play the game to add value to the community and give back to the game, winning titles is something I learned you can not do without doing fishy stuff, I could be wrong on that part but such is the feeling I have about that.
/BK
Just to give above statements a little test: Berhan, give me your tactics :)
yeah, user settings? But there i can change my email to a bogusemail, but not change the option not to forward them.
Or do i have to be in a ticker? In that case i can’t even find the setting :P
Please read the topic “Fixing the game” in Suggestions for more about formulas etc.
Another “proof” for my theori (of the “recipe”) is the fact that you can apply the same strategy to any team you take on when moving to another club, which logic says can not be done without changes that the team can cope with. Sure you can, just replace the team and there you go. Works every time. Come on.
Whatever, you are missing the point if you fail to see the problems in current setup of the game.
/BK
Sly, why indeed??
No one states it’s luck or bad luck, read my post and point where I blame luck or bad luck.
I ment that EVERY manager has same set of tools to use, as we all use the same menu in the game.
If a manager would get the best players in the game, he will be much more successfull than a manager not having the best players in the game.
The discussion should be more about how come some managers KEEP getting the best players one way or another (read by transfers) while other’s don’t? There is no secure routine that prevents cheating by transfering great players from friends( other accounts), is there?
I would cal ANY manager Legend if we would reset the world, and NO transferes would be allowed, then if a manager wins as much as Rui, I’ll be the first to call them LEGENDARY. By disabling transfers you can then and only then guarantee that no cheating is going on.
Again read carefully – I am not accusing Rui for cheating although there is no way to verify, is there?
So until we really can play the game in such way that you can uniquelly lead a team, there can never be a unique style of managing a team. I am talking about human behaviour measured by the actions you make in the game, for example:
What do you look at the first thing when you log on, team, result, economy, mails etc. That if measured then can be read and analysed to apply as input in the game generating unique result of team/club/economy etc..
The way it works now is like –
once you know the “recipe” then you can win games/cups/titles. If you are playing for that reason.
/BK
ps BK = Burger King ;)
Nice one Rui, I think it`s impossible for a guy like you to cheat… Specially because you play it since SS like I did it, and for that, you must be at least around 30+ hahahaha Cheaters usually are kids…..
I think we should respect everyones opinion, even if its not what we think… That what makes life interesting! If everyone had the same opinion, we would live in a boring world.
http://www.rubysoccer.com/forums/5/topics/88?page=6
8th post from top, written by Gabriel. I was here 4 years ago, and I have a good memory lol
For new managers I believe we should have a wiki, but dont put everything there. If you want to know more you should search this stuff, all changes to the game are in the announcement topic, 11 pages of learning material lol
Thanks again for the reply Gabriel, now that you explained a little bit more about the new economy I understand your idea better… I still think the old way is better, but we should give a chance to the new model =)
My opinion is that each game world should have its own time limit, and the ranking and hall of fame of the inactives worlds should be saved somewhere public.
This way we avoid inflation and the excessive number of super stars!
Go to your SETTINGS in game.
Very true, since he died in 2008. How observent of you :), but I hope you still got my point :)
I very much doubt Bobby Fischer would be able to beat you in chess :P
Ohh yes, the keeperstats i did find:
http://www.rubysoccer.com/mediawiki/index.php/Players_Skills
where can i change to option to get emails from ingame send to my emailadres?
Because i’m getting a lot of email :P
agrees with above :)
I just picked this up in a other topic. Sorry for the quotes i just picked out.
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Avatar Filipe Silva 700 post(s)
Game Master
Nop, 60%keeping+40%speed=91,2
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Avatar MiguelLopes 6 post(s)
how do you have access to these “formulas”?
15 daysAvatar Sly 668 post(s)
Game Master
play this game and read the forum. This is common knowledge. I think in this case it’s on the rubysoccer wikipedia page
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Just a strange idea, but these formulas are NOT known to everybody and i am playing the game and i am testing a lot.
It would be a lot easier to compete with the ‘masters’ when some formulas would be known. Perhaps i overread, and can you post the link to them here? As far as i know they are not there.
It would also be a lot more interesting for new managers to join and lower the step-in level.
I know a lot of the other managers would be really interested to know as well!
BK must actually stand for Buzz Killington.. :D
LOL @ your statement …
“I do not believe there is such a thing that is " a legendary manager", because EVERYONE can do the same INPUT to the game engine, you can not do UNIQUE stuff that ONLY you can do"
That’s a strange statement. Off course some can be legendary. If everyone can give the same input, then why does Rui Antunes have 12 CL titles and 28 league titles? Because of luck? Don’t make me laugh :). Now, with that same logic, why does Davison who’s been active since season 13 have 1 EPL title? Because of badluck?
Ok let’s see it from a different point of view. If i would play chess vs Garry Kasparov or Bobby Fisher, it should be 50/50 according to your logic? Afterall my queen can move in the same way as there queen can right? WRONG….there is more then just giving input. It’s knowing what input to give in which situation. or better yet, ask yourself…..what actually is the right input?
I guess Rui can stand up for himself, but I couldn’t help it standing up for my hero……the legend…..RUI ANTUNES!!!
Humm..Thought that was only a money decision…
Ruby players have life goals? If I knew that, i had offer Ronaldo’s Irina!
Thanks for your quick reply Filipe!
The player considers he’s got more chances of playing first team in the team he chose. It is done so smaller teams have more chances of getting better players. As you have better defenders then D. Aves (for the game at least) he thinks he can be more important and play important matches in Aves rather than Offenbach.
For you to make him want to go to your team you needed to offer more, we dont know how the math is done, but thats the principle of players decision in such cases.
Cheers
Hi there!
I think there must be a bug on this situation:
If you check this player last transfer:
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_info/391940
You can see that is actual wage is 81.000
I’ve offered 100.001 as my email msg proves on failure negotiation..as you can check too..
Can you tell me why did I lost this player?
Thanks!
Close but no cigar.
One of the simpler divide and conquer techniques to ridicule the guys saying what others might have thought but not mentioned. Remember the tale of the king’s invisible clothes?
No matter how the message is delivered, listen to it carefully. Davisson often sounds like a guy with a lot of issues, but do not forget his passion for the game.
Let’s just consider what the game really is. You can simplify it as state machines where INPUT results in RESULTS. As simple as that.
If you have a good tactic, and the best players – you will win.
Tactics, you can copy from others, so that is not a n issue here. THE PLAYERS are the key. HOW do you get your hands on the players.
Issues like managers selling only to certain friends and in some cases to themselves (2nd or x-th account) is more than likely to happen.
There are several methods to prevent this.
I do not believe there is such a thing that is " a legendary manager", because EVERYONE can do the same INPUT to the game engine, you can not do UNIQUE stuff that ONLY you can do. The players again are the key. How you get your players is the ISSUE, and Davisson and others have seen this too many times to let it pass as great managers doing great things. I kind of agree to that assessment.
Couple of ways to prevent this.
- completely revamp of how the great player is produced. This has to be KEPT SECRET, it’s part of the game reward system. You do not make a roulette game saying next will be RED, right?
Analyse few player histories, and create few patterns how a player can reach to what level of greatness by doing what?!
Some player could become star at 18, while others might need to hit certain checkpoints before getting there (IF EVER)
- let clubs sell any player if manager can not deliver, the other clubs could buy any player then. You can not keep bulking up your players.
- player morale, form, and these are two different things.
- morale could be affected when you have 4 goalies and buy a 5th or something similar. Then that could trigger few actions, some positive some negative. The effect could last a month and some even half/full season.
- form, some players need to play a certain amount of time in order to be at top level, others less. Rotating teams should mean something more than gaining stamina.
Anyway, to the subject, if you have a system where some are biased for no certain reason that is probably cheating. Like the most usual thing in such games, buying players others can not.
/BK