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The post is not about winning a victimization award, as you assumed in the previous post. That’s why so far, in the so called classification above, all 15 human managed teams are listed (Hence, the impact on all of us, not a personal level). The goal is simple, measure the full deviation of the results from what we consider “normal”.
Second, this post is an effort to help on things, not put the game down as you again assumed.
Since all of us, including Patrick, you, and me, are here debating about the game shows our commitment to the game (whether we are consumers or creators).
Rest assured that we all want this game to develop and progress. Point at the problems is the best way to start improving it.
Dimitri, we both agree match eng needs changes. I lost games or tie like the one you point out. But this is happening to everybody…… while we wait we have to work with what we have.
To Patrick c., i want you to know than i was born in Paris, i have family in France and i grow with a mixt of cultures, plus i lived 13 years out of Europe.
So the highlights our cultural differences are true, you are a chovinist!!!!! big time. But careless….. i think is you the one who need to find what world we living and dont give MIERDA to others ethnical groups….. the world is too small dude!!!
and to every else sorry this is my last personal post…
SALUD2
Clearly DaMaGo is emotion-driven. The entire point of this post in an analytical approach to the entire situation.
Myself, posting to go on vacation is what we call humor. Evidently, your interpretation of my sentence highlights our cultural differences…
The reason of this thread is not to cry but simply to collect some evidence of what is wrong with the game engine. Hopefully that can be constructively used when the match engine gets fixed as it is being now.
FYI…in RL, when weak teams win versus strong teams, they usually deserve it, it’s not a matter of accident.
Alcocorn fully deserved the 4-0 score against a shitty display by RM
Both United and Liverpool got thrown off the FA cup while playing at home against 3d and 2nd division teams respectively. And the fact is both winners deserved to win. It is very rare for a week team to win if it plays like shite. However, it’s common for a strong team to win games even when playing bad. Actually that’s a MUST for teams to win their leagues, that’s how most top teams, apart from Barcelona, manage to be consistent.
FYI…The game here should reflect RL as much as possibly, however, try as you must, our virtuality here cannot and shouldn’t be as much complex as RL. The game is a matter of numbers, quality is numbers, performance is numbers, and hence quantity of number decides. Things like player emotions or referee mistakes or turf quality and weather conditions don’t apply in virtuality.
FYI…the cases listed here are not based on the quality of strikers or the whole team. The only factor considered is amount of shots made on goal as a measurement of performance on the pitch. This is a reality of numbers, hence it is expected that a team making 2-3 times more shots than opposition, then it should win the game no matter the quality of its players. In addition, if the team dominating is also far superior in player quality then it is expected not only to win but also to crash the opposition. You may argue as much as you like, but the numbers beat abstraction in our case.
If Toulouse wins 3 games versus 3 of the best teams in the league with an aggregate of 4-1 goals and 35-77 shots, then something is clearly very wrong. You do understand that, don’t you???
So far, in 16 games played in the league I have outshot opposition in the 15 of those games. The only one games was against Brest lost 0-3 and was completely thrashed. No complain there.
I lost 4-0 to Marseille, 19-16 shots in my favor, no complain there. Next game tied at home with Monaco 3-3, 19-12 shots in my favor. No complain there, despite the fact that I wonder how can my D leak 7 goals in 28 shots against (I do have only an average goalie at best, but great defensive players) and my offense scores only 3 in goals in 38 shots made when. Again these matches was not included.
As for the rest of games, wins, losses, or ties, Valencieness has been dominating over and over, yet I find myself in mid table with a team averaging 637 pts per player and 2.5 times the shots made on goal versus opposition.
The quality of my shooters cannot hurt me as they are great. The quality of shots (I don’t buy this either) cannot hurt, for I shoot from close or medium range. Possesion?? I got it!!!. Tackles made?? Every frigging game. Strikers??? I got them!!! Mids, I got them!!! Everything you want, other than a great goalie, I got it. So don’t philosophize with me!!!!
FYI…Regarding the strikers scoring less, and the rest of the team more…I was the first one to cherish the new change, when most of the rest were crying out loud why they strikers wasn’t scoring 10 goals per game. This has got nothing to do with what we are talking about.
Bottom line: If all the numbers are showing me that my team is performing in full gear and if my team is full of quality, then I am left with no explanation why there’s no end product. And if there’s no logical answer, then things are not as they should be and should change!!! ;)
it´s seems like there is a very bad match eng. just for a few teams. This teams must be in a black list, you just have to read the posts to read how mush unfair shit is happen to then……..
tHIS MATCH ENG is for everybody, and you just have to ajust to it, like everybody else.
Its true it is not the best, but at least is allowing weaker teams to have a shot winning the top teams. this is like in real live… no the best always win….. see real madrid vs alcorcon!!!!!!! mills against pennys….. and pennys beat then 4-0……..
Managers have to approach different now days, i think differnt teams lay out are to be choosen for home and away games…. attackers now score like in real live….. no more than one goal average per game ( remember before up to 3 goals!!!! but by then i dont remember nowbody complaining than their attackers score to much….. but now it is all complains, and threat to go on vacations)????
Administrators are working in the new match eng, please STOP Crying! blow your nose and let it go….
We all play under the same rules……..
SALUD2
There is indeed something wrong. I shouldn’t have tied against Valenciennes and I played with a lot of my young players, not my best 11 so that’s makes it even stranger.
we are already in vacation. till the changes are made, we can have fun with our regressive league here
Week 16 Winners
Valencienes-Bordo 1-1 (28-9)
Bordo ties the game with one man down
Val -2
Bord 1
Brest-Lyon 1-1 (24-10)
Lyon ties the game with one man down
Brest -2
Lyon 1
Rennes-Sosho 0-1 (19-6)
Rennes -3
Classification after week 16
Troyes 12
Bordeaux 3
Lyon 3
Nice 2
Ajaccio 1
Niort 1
Lens -1
Guingamp -2
Auxerre -3
Brest -4
Marseille -2
Grenoble -4
Monaco -6
Rennes -9
Valenciennes -14
I may as well go on vacation mode and let the CPU take care of my team.
k so uh great i get to wait for this idiot to agree to cancel loan
btw in the past ppl who bought players that i had ON loan told me it was the rules to return the player
so fuck that bs
Yesterday I’ve started working on the match engine again. I’ve created action profiles for each position to try and fix this behavior.
After you have changed -1, 0 and +1 logic, it is been common, at least at my team, players from position D +1 been more present near oponnets goal than striker at position A-1.
For me defender -1, should stay just in defence and rarelly at middlefield
Defenders +1 should be more common at middlefield but very rarelly in A +0 or A +1
Summarizing:
Position / Acting positions
D-1 / ALL D, M-1, M0
D0 / ALL D, ALL M
D+1 / ALL D, ALL M and A-1
M-1 / ALL D, ALL M
M0 / D0, D+1, ALL M, A-1, A0
M+1 / D+1, ALL M, ALL A
A-1 / D+1, ALL M, ALL A
A-0 / ALL M, ALL A
A+1 / M0, M+1, ALL A
Forget about Troyes, check out Toulouse
In the last 4 weeks they have won against Auxerre (1st), Nice (4th), and Monaco
3 wins, 4-1 goals, 35-77 shots
And they don’t have a manager :D
hmm Troyes manager must be doing something right.
Toulouse-Nice 2-1 (8-28)
Nice -3
Classification after week 15
Troyes 12
Nice 2
Bordeaux 2
Lyon 2
Ajaccio 1
Niort 1
Lens -1
Guingamp -2
Auxerre -3
Brest -2
Marseille -2
Grenoble -4
Monaco -6
Rennes -6
Nice suggestions :)
Auxerre-Toulouse 0-1 (23-13)
Aux -3
Grenoble-Troyes 1-1 (31-10)
Gre -2
Tro +1
Guingamp-Niort 2-2 (21-10)
Gui -2
Nio +1
Classification after week 14
Troyes 10
Nice 5
Bordeaux 2
Lyon 2
Ajaccio 1
Niort 1
Lens -1
Guingamp -2
Auxerre -3
Brest -2
Marseille -2
Grenoble -3
Monaco -6
Rennes -6
Valenciennes -12
Should be interesting to change this. Like:
- If a player is loaned you can´t put him on transfer list
or
- Before u put to loan you have an option in contract: brake or not if player is transfered
or
- Loan contract receive an auto terminate in 12 or 18 turns.
This was changed a while back to foster loans by allowing teams to plan, as DaMaGo mentioned. In the old way the team who loaned the player could suddenly “lose” the loaned player, without notice. In the new way the team who is buying is able to decide whether or not buy a loaned player, knowing he will be back only when the loan period ends.
that is the way it is…..
when you bought the player, he was loaned, with contract, and with a period of time, so the team can plan use him all that period….. it will be unfair to take him out of the squad….. next time make sure he is not loaned so you can use him right away…..
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_info/81850
i bought a player recently that the team that i bought from had him out on loan.
know that he is my legal property
his contract is with me and not the loanee
the contract with his previous owner is null and void
i requested his rightfull return from “loan”
no response
so please put him on my squad so i can get him in his first game in a sunderland uniform
thank you
Edouard Allain
Pos: M
Sd: LR
Tk: 68
Pass: 99
Sht: 77
Spd: 87
Dri: 98
Ctrl: 93
Head: 93
Age: 23 still developing
Price: 50M
This and more:
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/team_players/701
Our host rebooted our machine around the tick time so I ran it manually about 30 minutes past the regular time.
strikers:
Monteiro 100 shot, 100 head, 92 dribble
Spaltini 100 shot, 94 dribbel, 96 control
Gouveia 95 tackle, 93 shot, 96 speedy
Defenders: all with 97+ tackle
Middle: very high tackle, pass and dribble
Goalkeeper: 99 goal, 100 head, 98 control, 89 speedy (his average: 94)
And playing home.
Ok to loose for 0×1, 0×2 or 1×2, but 0×4??? insane.
The game engine is complete BS… Mind you, I wouldn’t want to be Valenciennes but I’m heading down your way Dhim.
Is there a tick time change in fastticker? An hour too late.
Valladolid with 90+ shooters with in all its departments maximizing its scoring chances. In almost all players are good all around players, basically you have a compacted offensive minded team that can bite you from everywhere :)
i think valladolid plays with netter players, better defense and better middlefield and bettter attackers.
Valenciennes selling interesting players. All prices negotiable so let me know!
cheers
D
Great players, great defence, great middlefield, playing home:
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/658314