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so if his value in the game (German Angeleri) with the very same stats were 250M, you mean his value would be 250M???
I am telling you the value calculated in the game is wrong, I never look at that value, I look at what money the club has and the player’s skills. To analyze your player, he has great tackling sure, but passing is bellow the standard of a really great player, also speed could be better but it’s ok. So in order for ME to pay what you are asking he would have 80+ in pass and 95 in speed or more. That’s how I reason, I do not see him being worth more than 40-50M, but if you get 163M for him, sure, go ahead and sell to someone paying it, also if you get 500M, sell to that club instead, it is a free market, you sell to who you want. No need to get touchy over a bid. I explained my way of reasoning, if you still do not get it, then I can not say anything else to make you get it.
I am also claiming that if you should not have the player value attribute in the game, you would NOT put a price tag of 163M to that player. Here is the problem really, you thinking that he is worth that kind of money.
IF he was worth that kind of money, people WOULD HAVE bought that player from you for 163M, understand that!!
HE is NOT, there is NOT a single bit of thing in the game pointing towards such a thing of a player being worth that kind of money. I am talking about the economics in the game. Nothing explains/validates that value, it is simple result of not a good enough formula for player value calculation.
It’s like buying a cheap orange headphone and putting a nice logo to it and selling it for 10x the value, it’s worth it or not it depends on the buyer, not the value itself.
When we are talking industry and manufacturing cost, you can pretty much calculate everything and get the EXACT cost for a product being made.
Here the player value should be based on some common things as:
- number of highest level games (international games),
- number of years at top level (can be counter-measured with talent so you don’t get great and cheap youth players)
- how important player is for the club (not too big influence though)
and so on, there can be many checks to calculate a value instead of doing the old
And while the developers may or not may change the formulas, nothing changes, the value is still not real, and pretending it is the true value is not real to me, now you get how I am thinking when offering “an insult” offer. Or maybe you don’t (want to)…
Berhan
He’s only on the transfer list in case the computer team madness returns, or in case a human manager doesn’t know what to do with his money.
I had a wee look there, I would pay 60mil max for him. Ive never had a club with alot of money though.. everyones different.
Gérman Angeleri
Offering 25% of the price I am willing to pay him for is not a serious bid, it’s just a ‘I bid to annoy’ bid.
give me a name and i’ll tell you who’s at fault! :P
make me an offer and we’ll see..
I do not think anything nor I assume you think the way I do, it’s a game, it’s the interaction between managers that is part of the game. It’s really ridiculous of you to drop my bid by removing the player from transferlist like that.
Why do you do that, are you afraid that others will see my low bid and they will match the low bid?
If you are certain of your players being 2 or 3 times more, why be bothered by a lower bid?
Just wait and see what you’ll get.
What I do is I consider bids if they are acceptable or not, if not I still leave the bid there, and expect a fair offer no matter what people bid, I know the value of the players, apparently you don’t that’s why you get confused by the in-game value of the player, which is totally unnecessary.
Berhan
yes
I don’t think that you really believe that I would sell the player for that price, especially since you just bid again after I removed it.
But if you do: can you say what your best and most talented players are worth?
No, I still believe the in-game-player value is not realistic so I offer what I believe player is worth. You on the other hand look at the player value and assume that is the value. If the value column was to be removed I would still offer same amount while you would have no idea what to ask for such a player (apparently, since you are moaning about the value/price)..
My offer still stands.
BK
Are you just doing bids on players to annoy people, or what?
google translator? :)
You can even face off in the next hand, however, so they are categorized according to soretios give. Already in my case there was not much logic, I think that needs to be reshaped how the fighting is distributed as one of the top finishers can not pick up soon after one of the best runners. The logic is simple, first get the last asi and forth, but this is not happening. Needs to be rethought.
I thought that 2 teams that faced eachother in group stage could not play against eachother in the first round of direct elimination, I faced chacarita in group stage and then in direct elimination first round is that allowed, very unrealistic, can that be prevented in the future?
Because the final stages of the Sweepstakes is not equal to that made in real Libertadores. Tiger falls against a strong opponent already in the 8th while the right would have picked Deportivo Cali, which is the draw or the choice that the program is to define the fighting?
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maybe it has to do something with loosing your teams?
I mean the bug can be somehow related to it?
/BK
Since yesterday when I cleaned my pc (and lost saved passwords) I can’t login properly in the game. Every time I want to login the game says my new password is invalid, I can only login using the Forgot password option… Also I can’t change my language to portuguese again, it speaks of some error with the language file…
You’re right, just changed it.
Will the ticks in medium stay 3 hours later now?
nope, it was stuck. back to normal now…
Hi
Is that normal that the tick is so long today?
Jossepi sure. You can not classify all of equal value championships, winning a championship Spanish or Brazilian can never be the same value as winning a Peruvian or Swiss. This should be regarded with reason, but we should make some money by winning I think we all agree with that.
I. agree to this aswell but also take into account what league you win. Like winning in colombia should get you a little money compared to winning in england, spain etc were you should get millions.
ALAVES, spain 1st divison has a few players for sale.
approx 86-87 average. please place bid, prices are negotiable.
Any idea when this new youth system will be implemented? I suppose there will be an official announcement on it?
This subject is good, but I think I should get / earn money by winning titles at all the great object of this game is to be champion. Nothing fairer than you receive uam bonus for that. Just as you should get some kind of bonus for their advice by achieving the objectives or exceed the targets set by them. I think this only makes the game better and makes it look more attractive still.
I think we could have a period of transfer of players per CPU managers, but only at the end of a season and beginning of another. Would that work as championships in humans, where it would open a window transfer and there could be selling players. Only then we could accept these absurd prices data for CPU, the rest of the season they would be just looking for good players.
Not that I know of… After we finish some of our next improvements I will have a look at our benchmarks. But generally speaking 30 minutes is not so bad, considering the number of matches that are played every turn. Matches are the single most expensive actions the tick has to perform.
With the new youth system, the number of matches you play is not going to be of importance anymore. The participation in different types of matches is still going to be important, but not repetition to exhaustion anymore.
Joseppi, are you from Finland? :)
/BK
Recently the tick times for both dimensions are about half an hour. Something wrong?