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Supposing all teams start on group stage:
Hertha wins CL, by winning all games. pts = 175
For UEFA:
Team A winner (all wins) pts = 87.5
Team B runner up (all wins and 1 loss) pts = 81.25
Team C semifinals (all wins and 1 loss) pts = 71.875
Just a reminder, the country score is the average score of all its teams score (both from CL and UEFA Cup).
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Tomás Pedroso
27 years
Position: M / Side: L
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Tackle: 89
Passing: 94
Shooting: 87
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Speed: 90
Dribble: 79
Control: 86
Header: 80
Potentially speaking it always can. If Hertha potentially speaking win the cup with all wins (I don’t know how many pts that will be) it means that will twice the points of the winner of UEFA (who also potentially wins all games). It means the winner all of CL will basically win as many pts (by all chances more) as a country with three teams in UEFA. Does that seem fair to you?
Hertha wins CL, by winning all games. pts=???
Spain, for example, with three teams and their best possible performance in UEFA: total pts=
Team A winner (all wins) pts=
Team B runner up (all wins and 1 loss) pts=
Team C semifinals (all wins and 1 loss) pts=
can someone calculate the pts and see how they fair. Remember, for every 1 Uefa pts there are 2 CL pts
Dhimitri, how can germany benefit from only 1 team doing very good…rest of the countries will still get ALOT of points from uefa, while germany can only manage in cl with 1 team?
there should not be huge gap in point between CL and UEFA, or the respective Latin American cups, such as Vaugh proposes (2:1)
UEFA ratings, if nothing else, serves to reflect the strength of leagues. With Vaugh proposal, countries like Germany (a 1-2 teams league) would benefit too much. Benefiting from the new rating system, Hertha’s performances in CL would be enough to rank Gemrany higher in the overall ranking and gain extra European slots for German teams and for a league that don’t deserve. Teams from stronger leagues, will lose rights in CL and UEFA because of this.
If there will be changes, to reflect the difficulty levels between the two cups, then a 5:4 ratio would be enough. 2:1 will create artificial evaluations!
Filipe is right, don’t forget the National teams! :D
That would be to much competitions, and we must save a place for the National teams competitions :D
Regards
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first half of the season is also cup games, that would rly affect the stamina to much for those teams….gogo world cup!
how about World cup instead of the CL/LB in the schedule (2nd half of season) AND CL/UEFA/etc. in the first half of the season – winners/top 8 of each competition qualify for world cup.
love it, you know it……. cant wait….
The different way I like most is replacing the existing international cups by a World Cup with 32 clubs from all over the world :)
Different way = different way to distribute the points.
Gabriel, it still making not much sense on the points.
Even thinking hypotetically that Argentina would have good teams, that would just make Argentina and Brazil dominate it. I believe there are two ways to balance it; european competitions pay better and points still the same… Or find a different way to balance the equation.
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You can post your sales in the sticky “For sale and for loan” right on top of the Fastticker toppic.
Regards
Well my players are not bad believe me. I think there is something wrong with the game evaluating teams quality. I shouldn’t be ranked so low in my division IMO.
90+ dribblers with 80 tackle won’t take the ball away from you, but yeah it’s hard to tackle them :) Isn’t that the meaning of dribble?
1 more – maybe it is better to decrease the awesomeness of the “dribbling” attribute ? At the moment it is very strong and if you have a squad with 90+ dribblers you can dominate the opponent. I think all attributes should be valued and if a team even has a very good dribbling squad, it should be possible to outplay them using long pass or speedy players or something else =)
players with only +90 main stat won’t win u matches. Secondary stats are also very importent. Defenders with passing and shooting above 85 is ofc nice, but remember that are worth quiet alot! Winning games is all about good player and good tactics. If your team only has the main skill, then i doubt u wont come far. The best player in game is ofc every skill on 100, but that won’t happen.
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An for the midfield, if they tackle the opponent on the midfield then the defenders wil have less work to do. But can they get the ball in front to the attackers then? :)
After many seasons managing Gama i felt before the season finally i built a strong balanced team has matured with unique players that can dominate at least some games.
Well, my board expectation this season is to “stay in division”.
Yes, there are a lot of good teams in Brazil but i think there must be some decisive factors when the game engine analyses the quality of teams.
How important are the supporting skills?
Are defenders with good passing ability has impact on games?
Or midfielders with good tackling or shooting?
I play with four defenders with 90,86,84 and 81 passing. I have serious doubts having good passers in defense gives your team an edge.
My MA has 92 shooting 99 speed 96 dribbling and 96 heading scores only twice per season in 35+ league games.
How about having two 87 tackling players in midfield. Do they help your defending?
I started to think the game engine uses same kind of evaluation in the matches like in board expectations ignoring some key factors.
To be honest i really hate looking at the match reports to see inferior teams having more possession or better pass ratio or more chances.
Thanks for listening.
Guys there is a site that lets you visit long gone sites……
http://archive.org
use the waybackmachine box to search for sites.
if you go to managersim.com and then head into the last updated site you can access all non gameworld pages and ALL THE FORUM THREADS!!!
looks like i will be spending my night reading all those bloody things again!
http://web.archive.org/web/20070511005855/www.managersim.com/pub/pt_forumlist.php
@thorpedo, i’m going for the triple in my first season! cup/uefa/league !!! 1/3 completed!
ow yeah..grats to myself for my first title ever < 3
Not common was if the ball hits the bar and then the keeper’s head and than it is goal :P That’s uncommon Alban :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPZ994cPOFk
@ Philipp: It’s just a fact that you are outstanding in Germany. But you are right that we have to discuss about the schedule objectively. That’s why I think we need to renew the schedule.
And btw there is nothing as a lex Napoli. :) I won the title the previous season, but I don’t say they’re easy to beat. I’m playing a horrible season for the moment so Vaughn it’s your turn to beat Alexander’s Napoli.
I agree…took a note so we can improve that ;)
you know, we have a topic for these kind of things ;)
@Sly/Alban: that’s not the right way to discuss the need of a new schedule. first, i havent made this suggestion to weaken other teams. 2nd, i’m not responsible for the lack of competion in some leagues. So the need of a new schedule shouldnt be discussed on personal matters or current problems of balanced leagues.
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IMO there are just Spain and Brazil with alot of high quality teams. in the other leagues you just need to build up an extraordinary squad to compete the top 2. I would love to see more competion in my league and in some other aswell. Therefore we need more newbies with alot of effort on the game.
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And then we hopefully dont have to discuss if this is a Lex “Hertha/Napoli/B.Aires” or not ;P
Yeah I think hertha will get an advantage here. No need to help the strong get stronger :). In france the avarage skill might be lower then spain or Brazil, but you cant get away with playing a B-team vs teams that are #5-11. You will get your self in trouble….and lose valueable points.
1 more – every match my players hit the bar. Then almost every time the keeper catches the ball. I doubt it is so common that a ball after a powerful shot deflects from the post into the GK’s hand =)