1. Topic: General
2. Economy

@Gabriel: thanks for the info. In fact, if the total money doubled, it shows that some clubs are making real profits. They will probably be on the market then, moving some money around. Lets wait and see then :) meanwhile, keep up the good work! :)

@Filipe: the info that Gabriel gave is important and throws down my argument for now. About the last league, I got eliminated in the cup, way too soon (and by you :)) and with no european competitions and a great deal of luck, made it possible to win the league. In terms of players, my squad isnt that big of a deal yet :)

@Dimitri: by investments, i mean all kinds. Our taxes go to the state, so indirectly, it can be considered state investmens in the clubs.

Cheers!

 

1. Topic: General
2. Economy

Sure Filipe, but how about the reason to buy players?

A club buys players to achieve good results. In turn, good results provide good financial rewards. If the rewards aren’t enough to cope with the expenses, what is the point of buying players?

Think real life now, we are both portuguese and we know that our clubs sell to survive. But they sell to whom? To the richer clubs, to Barcelona, Real Madrid’s, Man City’s, etc… And how did those clubs got rich? Definitily not by selling players. They got rich due to good results, sponsorship and investment.

If those rich clubs didn’t exist, we wouldn’t have anyone to pay 20 or 30M for our best players. If they couldn’t be sold at those prices, there would be no motivation to sell.
My point is, selling to survive only works if there are rich clubs in the market.

If this economy model tries to make us all sell to survive, it will not hold because there will be no buyers.

I hope I have managed to explain my point. I will shut up now :)

Cheers

 

1. Topic: General
2. Economy

Dirk,

I understand your point. In the real world, a club only has a chance to get rich if playing in the CL, I can understand that approach.
Your club is a great example. Spanish champion, semi finals of CL and cup runner-up. Can I ask you what was your profit, excluding player transfers?

Cheers!

 

1. Topic: General
2. Economy

Dimitri,

I can’t agree with you for several reasons.
First of all, the most profitable clubs in the world pay high salaries to their players and staff, that’s just the way it is. They make up for it in sponsorship, attendance, marketing, etc.

Secondly, a professional football club is supposed to be profitable. If I’m told my wage limit is 1.5M and I only spend half of it, I expect profit, it is only logical.

Also, I would like to see which football club having a full stadium (100 000 seats) when playing at home, would charge about $10 per ticket on a league match, while fighting for the title :)

Cheers!

 

1. Topic: General
2. Economy

Hi guys!

Now that the season has ended, I will give my opinion about how I find the economy model, using my club’s data.

I think the valuation of the players value is fair. You have less money, players cost less, it’s ok. However, I find the salaries way too high in comparison.
My wage limit is $1,540,814, my total salaries cost $849,909. Which means, I’m $690,905 below the limit (which I expected to provide me with more profits).

I started the season with $19,148,995 total cash, with a level 10 stadium and did a great season, objective’s wise. Sold only one player by $1,200,000 and bought no one. My total balance now is: $21,997,776. Comparing with season start, it’s a profit of $2,849,781 (if you take the player sale from the equation, it results in only $1,649,781 profit).

That being said, I think that, or the sponsors and tickets are too low, or the player’s wages are too high but as it is, the economy model is more harsh than it should, imho.

What are your thoughts on this?

Cheers!

 

1. Topic: General
2. Economy

Thanks for the explanation Gabriel!

Cheers and keep up the good work!!

Paulo

 

1. Topic: General
2. Economy

Hi Gabriel,

So, how does it work now? Is there a thread with all the changes? Are there more ways to make money, like ticket revenue, merchandising, etc?
Thank you for your work!

Cheers,

Paulo

 

1. Topic: Bugs
2. Loading Fast Dimension

It’s stuck at 8% for about 15 minutes now.

thanks

 

1. Topic: MediumTicker
2. Unbelievable

Ya, quando fui eu a queixar-me do mesmo, era o meu keeper que era mau…agora aguenta-te à bomboca e não chora!

 

1. Topic: MediumTicker
2. What are you doing, seriously?

Ok, so you’re an expert, maybe you can explain me this then:

Chateraux vs Nancy: 3 – 3
4-4-2 formation 4-4-2
46% possession 54%
8 shots 28
7 shots on target 23
91% accurrate passes 90%
35% effective tackles 54%
0 corners 4
6 offsides 2
11 fouls 4

Btw, those are short distance shots. Opponent’s best Goalkeeper has gk 80, and speed 91.

Or, this one:

Nancy vs Guingamp: 2-2
4-3-3 formation 4-4-2
51% possession 49%
26 shots 10
19 shots on target 7
93% accurrate passes 91%
56% effective tackles 40%
5 corners 0
2 offsides 3
7 fouls 8

Guingamp’s keeper is weaker than mine in every sense.

Or even this one, althoug the keeper is a little better:

Auxerre vs Nancy : 3 – 1
4-3-3 formation 4-4-2
44% possession 56%
9 shots 29
8 shots on target 25
87% accurrate passes 93%
40% effective tackles 62%
2 corners 7
5 offsides 2
8 fouls 4

And there are many more examples, but I don’t have time or patient to copy paste them all. Don’t go blaming my keeper, especially if the opponent’s keeper isn’t better than mine.. I won’t accept that as justification for those results.

Cheers,

Paulo

 

1. Topic: MediumTicker
2. What are you doing, seriously?

Hi guys,

Because I think this game has potential, I decided to make this post, instead of simply quitting. I manage Nancy, have a quite good team, had some sucess already, know some experienced players who helped me out in the start, with the game tactics and mecanics.

This last season with Nancy, has been totally ridiculous, in most games that I lost, i have 3 times more shots on target, and im talking about short and medium distance, have more ball possession, and not to mention, must better players and not even talking about the crapy keeper of most of the opponents I lost points to.

I understand that football has a considerable random factor, but this seasons results, go way past of reasonable expectations. i would understand losing points to a highly motivated team, with a 7 game winning streak, but cannot understand losing points against a weak bot, playing at home, making near the triple of shots on target.

This is constructive criticism, i hope you take good use of it.

Cheers,

Paulo

 

1. Topic: Bugs
2. Match Results

Totally agree with Miguel. In this situation, with such a big difference between teams, this kind of results shouldn’t happen. Not by that big of a margin anyway. 1-0 it would be ok, considering the random factor and all. 2 would be a stretch, 3 is totally unreal, considering both teams potential.

 

1. Topic: Bugs
2. Formation Bug

Yes, Im having the same problem today! In the chrome console, the following appears:
Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 401 (Unauthorized) http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/addplayer

After that, if I try any other option in the game, it logs me out