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Topic: Leaving Santo André

Good luck… it’s always the most rewarding managing your favorite team.

Topic: Leaving Santo André

Good luck with your new team:)

Topic: Leaving Santo André

Good luck with Santos

Topic: Last round Brazil

Just for the record, I’ve removed the 10 limit on board penalty.

Topic: Last round Brazil

such results are just disgusting and so irritating…

Topic: Last round Brazil

I think you should lose 85 reputation points for a 0-10 loss. If you are not sure that the CPU will be able to judge correctly, give this tool to the gamemasters so that they were able to punish the managers who do that on purpose.

Topic: Last round Brazil

What I mean is that a strong team would not loose with 10-0 when they play with their B-squad. A weak team will. And as said above to give a penalty when you loose 10-0 or more weaker will get a punishment much faster.

Topic: Shooting - Match Engine

I have qualified 2 times in a row against athletico madrid and bayern munchen so its no luck any more!

Groningen 4 life

Topic: Last round Brazil

I’m not sure I understand what thorpedo but I agree there should be an extra penalty for very bad results.

In this example if Gremio’s manager had 100% performance he would only lose something like 10%… even if had not the 100% it would just cost more money from Santo André.

Regards

Topic: Last round Brazil

seems like that… i am sorry for my that mistake… :)

Topic: Last round Brazil

@Parag: I think there is a mistake. You are confusing posts. Vaughn, also known as Nicky Broos is with Juventus. He’s not with psg or any french team (anymore). So I don’t understand your post which says "vaughan has himself said he wanted to focus on champions league rather than the league and that he had little chance against monaco. ".
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He’s not in the same league as Monaco :)…..Vaughn plays @ Juventus :)

Topic: Last round Brazil

A penalty by the board is the best option I guess. But I don’t think you can use a certain score as 10-0. Some teams are already weak and would “normally” lose the match with 4-0 anyway according to the board. Other teams are strong and need to win the match win 4-0 according the board.
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So for a weaker team the difference for a board penalty is only 6 goals in stead of 14 goals for a stronger team. And the stronger teams mostly have a good B-squad.
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There are 2 options in my opion:
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- A) You count for example 10 goals with the result expected by the board for a penalty. So a “normal expected” loss of 4-0 becomes 14-0 loss and a “normal expected” 4-0 victory becomes a 6-0 loss.
This way you give stronger teams the same chance of punishment.
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- B) Strong teams will have a bad result much faster. So you count the penalty for the bad result and an extra penalty for the very bad result.
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We have to find a solution for this problem before the new world cup is impleted. Teams have to play more matches and these kind of problems will occur much more.

Topic: Last round Brazil

well, sly no one is accusing french teams… vaughan has himself said he wanted to focus on champions league rather than the league and that he had little chance against monaco. watch his 3rd and 5th comments on the related thread. and i think other teams lower than him benefited rather lose anything with that decision. In fact he didn’t cheat against anyone in the league with that decision, but then since he could not do well in the CL, he did against his on board…

But having said that i have always said there should be some penalty against manager from the concerned club. and i think removing this 10 point penalty limit is the best option for now…
do well u get rewarded, do bad you pay

Topic: Last round Brazil

LOL @ Sly. I agree though, it’s not so much cheating just not in the " sporting code ". In fact, no, there was money involved so it was cheating.

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but i think they should be forgiven for been so brazenly honest about it and giving us all a laugh

Topic: Last round Brazil

I’ll remove the board 10 points penalty limit ;)

Topic: Last round Brazil

PSG didn’t play reserves though. He only played a youth goaly because his own goaly got injured. I don’t like accusations towards teams in my country. Please keep them out of it :)…we are Boo – ing at Santo Andre for bribing team!! :)…BOOOO!!! BAD BOY!!! :p

Topic: Last round Brazil

The way I see it, the only way we can efficiently prevent this is to adjust the board – so they become very unhappy if you have a 10 x nil result, for example. But let’s see where the discussion goes.

Topic: Last round Brazil

Remember the Incident with PSG and Monaco this is what I am talking about. this is Unethical remember what happened in Italy a few years ago, this is in the same ball park, I see no difference between buying a Referee and Buying the other team.

in (RS) Brazil’s case there was an amount 7.5M, in France (Monaco 21 X 0 PSG) we do not know if there was an agreement between the 2 coaches (wich I personaly think that it did happen.) if everyone actualy stops and thinks about what happened, line in my previos comment about this related incident in France just think what will happen in the furute.

Topic: Last round Brazil

Now I think Dot should not pay Meninao. muhahahah! :)

Topic: Last round Brazil

I understand all the positions here, but I think something can be done to avoid this kind of situations. I read somewhere the performance penalty for losing a match has now a max of 10 points. I think that should not exist and the penalty for results like 9 or 10 goals difference should be penalty even with more points than the usual. This way managers will have to be careful sparing their team…

Regards

Topic: Last round Brazil

who haven’t helped a friend? loaning players etc, i won’t say how we did it cause it might be considered “not fair” :)

Topic: Last round Brazil

Oh, and I’ve also used my friendly squad in the past in situations like the one Vaughn described in order to give my youths some experience. I didn’t care whether or not the opponent was fighting for the title or a international cup spot. I haven’t done that in a while though. Shame on me! :(

Topic: Last round Brazil

@Philipp: “It’s just “sportsmanship” that should lead everybodys actions, not just what’s written and what’s been monitored.” – very well said ;)
@amacb: I’m glad to know you feel this way
@Meninao: I think everybody understands your reasons but most users didn’t like it. I don’t think this is good for the game but as I said before I don’t feel like punishing anybody because it would be unfair not punishing other managers with the same behavior, which would require a precious amount of time to investigate
When people have friends playing the game it is inevitable they try to help each other somehow. I’ve had friends who lost games on purpose (when there was nothing else they wanted to fight for in the competition) to help me without me asking them to do so. Is this bad for fair play and competition? Yes, of course, and I discourage this behavior, even when this is done with good faith.
Hope you guys understand our situation and have the same spirit as Amac, who is now even more motivated to win the league next season ;)
Cheers!

Topic: Last round Brazil

Punishing is a big word. Think it’s better to make big dissapointment at your board which results in say like drop 50% in happyness or something like that which in the end can result in you getting fired (talked about this in an other post).

On the other hand, if i look at my own spot, i use friendly lineup every time i’m guarenteed of uefa/cl/league when i can’t be catched anymore. Should that be counted to? Say like last match..i couldn’t get #1 and i couldn’t get #3 so i used my friendly team against a rubbisch team on the bottom hoping my yought would grow abit.

Topic: Last round Brazil

I particulary prefer to play S.A. because the field is more compatible to my team. But would be great if I could win the League, so I played hard until the 36th game. On the 37th game I had no more chances to win the League, so as you guys can see, I used almost the whole reserve team (using my youths too), but unfortunately (or not) the match was in my home and against the last team in brazil (Palmeiras), so I won by 1×0.
In the final game I would use the same reserve team to help Dot ( as I helped some other teams before, like I did against CRB (my cousin’s team) before, if you guys can remember), but I would never say it to Dot. But when he offered me the money I decided to use an even worst team, to make sure that nothing wrong could happen.
What I want to make clear for everyone is that I would let he win anyway because he is my friend and I didn’t want to play L.A.
If you think that it need to be punished, I will accept. I didn’t receive the money yet, but I can be punished. But if you decide that, please guarantee to me and everyone that any other suspect result will be punished even if the manager says that he didnt receive the money. Because if I were not honest and say it in the forum, you guys would never now. And I’m pretty sure that it have happened before.
Regards

Topic: Last round Brazil

Guys as i mentioned in my first post fielding a reserve team for me is ok if you have no reason to win. But passing a chance to play in better competition for money i can not agree.

Anyway i have no hard feelings and winning now in Brazil just got better

Topic: Last round Brazil

IMO there is not much against using a reserve team. I use reserve team in national cup and a 2nd best team in league during the CL (but no youths!). But i always try to avoid to give the fight for the best spots a spin. So I line-up an equally strong formation against the top ~7-8 teams, so no one is really hurt.
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If you wanna start rather in UEFA/CS than in CL/Lib, you should start losing points in (earlier) matches which are not so decisive for the final table of the league!
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It’s just “sportsmanship” that should lead everybodys actions, not just what’s written and what’s been monitored.

Topic: Last round Brazil

@amacb: winning Copa do Brasil didn’t gives the team a spot in any competition. In real life it gives you a spot in Libertadores and I think in Europe winning the national cup gives you a spot in UEFA, but we didn’t want to implement that in the game to make things simpler instead of adding lots of specific rules.

Topic: Last round Brazil

@Sly: they probably made some over priced deals in the past.
Let’s put things straight, I think that using your reserves in a match is pretty common in this game in situations where you want to rest your best players for a more important match or to help a friend or whatever, but using money to do that is something I’ve never heard before in the game (I’m not saying it never happened).
I agree with those saying it’s not a good thing to do but there is no way to prevent / detect it (at least not a simple way). As soon as I read Amac’s first post I suspected that some kind of arrangement between the managers could have happened, as Meninao is a co-worker of mine and I am aware that he and Dot know each other. But what if I didn’t knew any of the involved managers and they denied it as Sly suggested? How could we prove they did something like that? A manager could simply say he was resting his players for the international match and didn’t want to qualify to Libertadores, but Sudamericana. Should we have punished them in this case as well? Should we punish all managers who use their reserves in an official match?
To be honest, I don’t know what (if something) should be done.
Alright, wrote a lot, now you guys can proceed with your comments ;)

Topic: Last round Brazil

Your loss!! i could have offered you more lol

Seriously is this a joke? By the way didnt you win Copa do Brazil which puts you in SA in turn 52 and you waited last game to tank..interesting