I cant hold anymore….please you have to get a new system to determin the game result….i’m tired of loose against weaker teams…..it not far….i can understand when i win against weaker teams and i get understand when i loose against stronger teams… but its not fair that i play better and have better players and loose….
you should do something about this…
best regards…diogo…

Well, that sometimes happen in real life Diogo, weaker teams win against stronger teams. There are 2 reasons for that on RubySoccer: luck or a weaker team with a good strategy against the stronger team strategy. Now if it is happening very often against different weaker teams we may need to do something about it. The way we determine the result is by simulating the match, so all the statistics you see in the report did happened in the simulation. We evolved it to a point where the results seemed to make sense and the statistics not too far from reality, but we know that this simulation is far from being ideal, we are aware there is plenty of work to do on it.

Point some match reports for us to analyze if you wish, Diogo.

Cheers!

I was waiting for the end of the season but since a post about it is here, let me share my strangest season ever!

My first 11 official games had overall success, with 17 goals scored against 3 conceaded, and I must notice that most of this result is achieved in championship. Maybe a bit luck for me but nothing special in 2/3 games, something near normal.

http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/55576
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/55577
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/62535
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/62536
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/63203
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/63204
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60282
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60296
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60310
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60324
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60338

The next 13 games are completely different, my team scored one (1) single goal and conceaded 13!!! No victories for me, and 5 consecutive 0×0!! I went from first place of table to bottom!!! The most unpleasant part is not about winning, is just not scoring at all!!! How can!?

http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60352
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60370
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60388
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60406
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60424
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60442
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60460
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60478
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60494
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60508
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60283
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60297
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60311

And the last games are the worst… Because I believe I should have won them all… There are Ws Ds and Ls, and a 6-5 goal difference! I am saying, if I get more than 10 shots on goal I might have a good chance to score, and above 20 I even might win the game!!!

http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60325
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60339
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60353
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60371
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60389
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60407
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60425

Except for this one (the very last one)…

http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/60443

I had this to put here but I was waiting for the end of the championship (4 games to go)… Now, this post looks like a good place…

Cheers!

just some games that might help in the analysis

The folowing to matches were agains “computer teams”. I know that there is the “luck” part of the match and the tactic influencies but … it’s hard to see those two results :) .

26 shots on goal … 0 scored end of the match 0×0
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/54040

28 shots on goal … 0 scored lost 1×0 (other team shot twice, scored one)
http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/match_report/53958

I think some of that results are because of the home advantage… It is much more dificult to win away even if the oponent is an inferior team, so draws are much more frequents. Even Academica with a far superior team than the rest of us has some trobles in away matches. This is good because the championship is a lot more competitive and teams are very close in the table…

Regards

What Filipe said makes sense and should be taken in consideration, but we will analyze the reports and hopefully find some time to improve the match engine. Thanks for all these match report links guys!

Cheers!

The biggest mistery for me is… As my squad gets stronger, with better players, my results get worse and worse. I keep on losing games against teams with players that, comparing to mine, are much weaker (something like, in average, 10 units per player on the main skill).

The tactic is the same that gave me good results in the past – even though I’ve experimented a lot, with no results whatsoever.

Forwards with shooting 87, 83, 82… All defenders with tackling 87 and 86, a keeper with keeping 91, and I still manage to end the championship having more goals against than goals scored. How come?

Stamina always 99 or 100.

I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong, and it’s hard to fix things when we don’t know the reason why they’re not working. Sometimes I look at the match reports, at my squad and my opponents, and the matches seem randomly generated… I quited from following the market, as I see no results on improving the squad…

Cheers :)

I have to disagree at least in one point Carlos, improving the squad did brought me better results. After finishing middle in table a few seasons ago I’ve hired a 93 attacker, a 94 defender and my keeper improved to something around 90. I’ve finished in 3rd two seasons in a row, won the Copa Sudamericana and now I’m second in the league. :-)

Anyway, I have the feeling that making the match replay available for everybody, even with the not so mature match simulation we have, would make it easier for you guys to give us suggestions on how to improve that. I’ll talk to Danilo about this, we must work on a way to better present this replay before making it available.

Cheers!

I think that could give us some more help on figuring what the team isn’t doing how we think it should. But take your time, of course :)

Sorry if these questions had already been answered, but…

:: is there any influence of the results sequence on the team performance? I mean: if my team loses 4 games on a row, are my chances of winning the next game different comparing to a scenario where I won the last 4 games?

:: Do the players have any kind of hidden attribute (such as morale, for instance) that boosts/penalizes their performance? This could explain why regularly some players put on stronger exhibitions than other players who have stronger skills (assuming that both are playing on their natural positions).

:: Looking at what happened on the last two seasons at the Portuguese first division, it seems to me that there are too many tied matches – maybe you could check that and do some “fine tuning”, if that turns to be your opinion too.

Thank you :)

Here are the answers :-)

1) There is no influence of the results sequence in the next match performance, but there will be in the future, and that will be properly announced;

2) There is no morale attribute, but we will have, and it may not be hidden;

3) I agree there are too many ties, at least I’m having many this season on MediumTicker, specially 0×0. The match replay should help identifying the reason for that as well.

Cheers!

On 30 league matches this season, I got 0×0 nine times! :)

Boavista, for instance, tied no less than 17 games.

yep, it is sure important to make the replay available as soon as we can. one of the things i would want to finish before we do that is the board basic functionality. lets see…