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June 25, 2013 13:54

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Hi All

How about we as managers share some knowledge here and compare accuracy for diffrent scouting lvls.

The idea is to have multiple scouting reports with different lvls of scouting for same player.

I made this report for my player “Javier Pinazo” with lvl 7 scouting http://www.rubysoccer.com/game/player_scout_report/396290

So for example if someone can do the scout report for “Javier Pinazo” with a different scouting lvl and post it here in return i will make a report for any player of their choice with my current lvl 7 soon to be 10! i can do 2 more reports with lvl 7 till tick 12. So hurry.

Other managers can deal under this topic as well.

Cheers

 

June 25, 2013 14:34

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Hi Amac,

I have currently just a 2 points in scouting skill.
In 2 ticks, I will make my scout report on Javier Pinazo.

Could you please share your scouting report (I mean, you will have to write it, as when we click on your link, it does not show the report, just tell : “No report found”)?

In counterparty, I have done my report on my player : Fernando Goycochea.
Could you please do the same with your scouting level = 7 ?

Fernando Goycochea (was 17 year old when I ask for the scout report)
Skill—————————Current Value———————-Potential Value (scout lvl = 2)
Keeping————————35———————-35
Tackle————————-83———————-96
Passing————————-69———————-92
Shooting———————-64———————-70
Speed—————————70———————-92
Dribble————————71———————-84
Control————————80———————-89
Header————————-68———————-87

See you in 5 hours 30.

Cheers,
Shawn

 

June 25, 2013 15:18

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Hello Shawn

Thnks for your input. I can do the report for Fernando Goycochea in 4 turns.

Meantime Javier Pinazos report as follows;

Skill Current Value Potential Value
Keeping 31 31
Tackle 78 87
Passing 75 82
Shooting 75 87
Speed 83 83
Dribble 89 100
Control 81 99
Header 77 78

cheers

 

June 25, 2013 17:34

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That Goycochea if comproved will improve really nice mostly in the skills he need…

 

June 25, 2013 21:13

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Hi Felipe,

Thanks for the info, its good to Almagro then ;)
Good transfer done.

 

June 25, 2013 21:16

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Hello Amac,

Here is the report for Javier Pinazos

Skill————-Current Value -—-Potential Value (lvl2) -—-Potential Value (lvl7)
Keeping———————31———————31——————————————31
Tackle———————78———————82——————————————87
Passing———————75———————75——————————————82
Shooting———————75———————89——————————————87
Speed———————83———————83——————————————83
Dribble———————89———————100——————————————100
Control———————81———————82——————————————99
Header———————77———————86——————————————78

Some big differences, especially in Control skill

Cheers
Shawn

 

June 26, 2013 06:37

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Thnnks Shawn

Fernando Goycochea’ s report with lvl 7

skill Current Value Potential Value
Keeping 35 35
Tackle 83 90
Passing 69 91
Shooting 64 71
Speed 70 79
Dribble 71 75
Control 80 89
Header 68 87

 

June 26, 2013 07:07

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Hehe nice to see those diferences… It means people need higher levels of scouting so they can trust a little in the reports. Wich makes me think, have level 8-10 scouting or have none :D

 

June 26, 2013 09:28

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Oh nooooo, I though having bought THE gold player :)).
It’s clear, we really need at least 8.

Good idea this scouting test Amac ;)

 

June 26, 2013 12:57

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Do you guys know if a Manager A with level 7 and a Manager B with level 7 will generate the same scouting reports on the same player, the same season ?

 

June 27, 2013 06:34

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Good question maybe developers can answer this.

I got following report with lvl 10 scouting for a player who is 24 years-old and still improving .

I am curious about the accuracy. I will post his skills when he is fully developed.

Timo Maas

Skill CValue PValue
Keeping 35 35
Tackle 89 89
Passing 83 87
Shooting 95 97
Speed 78 81
Dribble 89 90
Control 100 100
Header 86 86

 

June 27, 2013 06:48

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^ sell me him

 

June 27, 2013 07:11

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Shawn, I’m pretty sure Gabriel added a random factor here as well, as he should.

So the answer is no, it may even be that your level 2 report is more accurate than amacb’s level 7. It is unlikely, but possible…

Gabriel, please confirm :D

 

June 27, 2013 09:24

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Javier Pinazos’ header skill increased to 79 already a failure for lvl 7 scout :p

Skill————-Current Value -—-Potential Value (lvl2) -—-Potential Value (lvl7)
Keeping———————31———————31——————————————31
Tackle———————78———————82——————————————87
Passing———————75———————75——————————————82
Shooting———————75———————89——————————————87
Speed———————83———————83——————————————83
Dribble———————89———————100——————————————100
Control———————81———————82——————————————99
Header———————77———————86——————————————78

 

June 28, 2013 06:45

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@Shawn, @Filipe: of course there is a random factor! Two reports from same level scouts will not necessarily be the same, but the deviation from the truth should be similar. Note that I said should, of course one of the scouts could have been drunk when writing the report…

 

June 28, 2013 13:17

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Or Gabriel had a beer or two doing the formula? ;)

 

June 28, 2013 22:14

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Timo Maas has reached 90 tackle. lvl 10 scout evaluating a 24 year old missed it. Maybe its too early to tell but think i keep on trusting my own judgement then these scouts.

 

June 29, 2013 04:11

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@Berhan: not fair, I don’t drink alcohol at all! ;-)

@amacb: if he stops at 90 or even goes up to 91 would you consider the scout to have missed by much? As I said, the scout is never supposed to be perfect.

 

June 29, 2013 09:45

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Gabriel, then THIS is the reason ;)
Start drinking mate! :)

/BK

 

July 01, 2013 23:17

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Tom Hudson
Player Info
Player Stats
Player History
Scout Report
Potential values are estimates provided by your club scouts. The estimates are more accurate for older players and if you have a high scouting level, but 100% accuracy is never guaranteed.

Report Generated on season 86, turn 25
Position: M

Skill Current Value Potential Value
Keeping 35 35
Tackle 79 81
Passing 96 93
Shooting 83 83
Speed 90 90
Dribble 97 97
Control 82 82
Header 94 94

 

July 01, 2013 23:17

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have already surpassed :)

 

July 05, 2013 14:01

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since admins are saying that scouting is not 100% accurate, i’d like a bit of clarification on something.
so far i’ve noticed scouts under predicting ratings. Does this mean they can also OVER predict ratings? i assume yes but would just want confirmation.

 

July 08, 2013 03:51

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Administator

 

Yes, the prediction can go either way.

 

July 08, 2013 19:37

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Gabriel, is it random 1-X nr of percentage either way, or based on a skill/investment level?
ie the higher the scout level the less risk/chance of guessing wrong?

I hope you don’t answer, answering that kind of questions ruins the gameplay.

/BK

 

July 09, 2013 01:56

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OK, I won’t answer then :-)

 

July 23, 2013 11:15

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Donator

 

Skill Current Value S1 S2
Keeping 34 34 34
Tackle 80 92 80
Passing 73 86 90
Shooting 73 86 73
Speed 86 90 87
Dribble 83 96 87
Control 77 76 81
Header 76 77 79

S1 is last season (scouting 9), s2 is this season (scouting 7). 20 points less potential…

 

July 24, 2013 20:41

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Donator

 

And check the differences between these scouting reports on the same player:

Tackle 92 81
Passing 95 98
Shooting 90 87
Speed 94 79
Dribble 98 100
Control 90 100
Header 86 96

 

July 26, 2013 09:43

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Hi guys

I’m doing second scout reports on several of my young players and there are large differencies between the scouted potenial values. Scouting level 10 on both reports. One player dropping from potential shooting = 100, to potential shooting = 82 or something similar. I can understand that a level of inaccuracy should remain regardless scouting level, but this seems just a bit off. Correct me if I’m wrong but shouldn’t implementing a scouting system (and removing player info like starting value) add to the ability to investigate players? Otherwise it all seems very random?

 

July 27, 2013 03:12

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thats because its bullshit alex. ive already figured out that 10 scout is as bad as 1 scout

 

July 27, 2013 08:30

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Then perhaps Gabriel could explain what’s going on and what to expect from this scouting system. I just had another player re-scouted – he’s 19 years old MD and went from potential passing = 94 to potential passing = 79 which is his current ability. If this is the level of inaccuracy to be expected from the scouting system I would rather be without.

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