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July 23, 2009 21:16

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Now this is some unlucky spreading of the teams. 3 German teams in 1 group and also 4 french teams only devided by 2 groups :). Last but not least we have 2 teams from portugal and they are ALSO in the same group :).

Gabriel, care to explain here? I know it can happen now and then, but this is just sad :)

 

July 24, 2009 00:21

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As you said, unlucky spread. I’m not sure if I’m mentioned how we form the groups, if I didn’t I’ll do it know.

- sort the 16 teams by quality and give them numbers from 1 to 16 (1 being the best, 16 the worst)
- group 1 will have teams 1, 8, 9, 16
- group 2 will have teams 2, 7, 10, 15
- group 3 will have teams 3, 6, 11, 14
- group 4 will have teams 4, 5, 12, 13

 

July 24, 2009 00:45

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It’s hard to make it like in the real CL? Teams would be sorted by pots, like nº1s, nº2s, nº3s and nº4s. Than chose 1 from each to make a group, with the restrictions about the same country…

 

July 24, 2009 06:17

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seems pretty fair when u look at it from qualitative perspective, but then if you look from the country perspective, things don’t look good.

gab, i know it will be difficult to have just one team from one country in a group (in the current qualitative group formation scenario), but how about trying to ensure that there are no more than two teams from the same country in a group… three is a bit too harsh…

 

July 24, 2009 08:24

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Makes me wonder where I’m ranked then :). I guess I’m 6th or something? My board says this: International expectation: Reach the quarter-finals . So I assume I’m atleast top 8, and since #7 is in group 2 and #8 in groups 1……….you do the math :)

 

July 24, 2009 10:11

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I can try the pot idea suggested by Filipe.

 

July 24, 2009 11:43

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I think the order is the same we see in the groups right now Sly so you are the 6th. And with the new acquisitions Benfica is now the 2nd best in Europe :D Fans are delighted Gabriel :D

 

July 24, 2009 12:16

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Benfica will fight for the title :D

 

July 25, 2009 11:23

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i’d like to add a suggestion for the CL finals stage: teams from the same group shouldn’t meet again before the finale.
Currently the advancing 2 teams always meet again in semi-finals already, if both won their quarterfinals.

 

July 25, 2009 13:24

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makes sense… happens the same in real competitions too…

 

July 25, 2009 14:06

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The fact they meet in semi-finals is a coincidence (even though it is the most likely situation using the curent formula).This kind of complaint must have come from europeans, here in South America we are so used to the lack of organization in our football competitions that nobody would think about it :D

 

July 25, 2009 14:35

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yeah, I don’t care about meeting each other in quaters or semi’s. That’s just badluck. Chelsea has faced Liverpool plenty of times in the later stage the CL….

 

July 25, 2009 17:16

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Chelsea and Liverpool never played in a same group …

 

July 26, 2009 15:42

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that’s irrelevant…..
Spain was in the same group with Russia…they met in the semi’s of EC. So… badluck if you see another german in the semi’s. I don’t think there should be changes here. Keep things as they are.

 

July 26, 2009 15:48

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i would say if you r going to try the new idea, it would be sensible to look at philipp’s idea, at least for the quarters… after that… it should just be a lucky draw…

 

July 26, 2009 17:53

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you misunderstood me Sly. I dont care about meeting another german team in the quarters or semis. i care about balanced groups (strength and with minor relevance, nationality) and i would prefer that teams dont meet so soon again after group stage (no matter if they are from the same country or not …).
I’m aware that the modi used in RS probably have RL references, but i just speak out what i like most. If others see it the same way, fine. If not, good.

 

July 27, 2009 00:59

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actually Philipp Chelsea and Liverpool have played in the same group in the 2005-06 competition. But that was because the Reds had won the CL in 2005 and ended up only 5th in EPL. Hence, there were 5 English teams in CL next season, even though Everton never made it to the group stages.
That said you are correct. Same country teams should not play in the same group

@ Gabriel: Once teams are automatically divided in 4 pools, you can do the dealing manually to form the groups and apply the not-from-the-same-country rule

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